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	<title>Comments on: Celebrate the 4th of July with Yahoo! Messenger</title>
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		<title>By: mari</title>
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		<dc:creator>mari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is grate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is grate</p>
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		<title>By: CivilisedButCensored</title>
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		<dc:creator>CivilisedButCensored</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Fake Al Gore

What you should be able to do in Yahoo! Chat is post something like

:is happy

and it posts as an emote.  It&#039;s been this way forever, but since the beta of version 9, it hasn&#039;t worked.  I have reported it in beta bug report from and final via customer suppoer, but when you get responses like that from Max, you really do believe the developers are not aware of it.  And concerning is that the support team don&#039;t understand basic functionality for what they are supporting.

Another bug new in beta 9 and since that I reported and got responses from Max, are not being able to use the up arrow to scroll through your chat posts if you need to repost one, his response was as before, not understanding the question!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fake Al Gore</p>
<p>What you should be able to do in Yahoo! Chat is post something like</p>
<p>:is happy</p>
<p>and it posts as an emote.  It&#8217;s been this way forever, but since the beta of version 9, it hasn&#8217;t worked.  I have reported it in beta bug report from and final via customer suppoer, but when you get responses like that from Max, you really do believe the developers are not aware of it.  And concerning is that the support team don&#8217;t understand basic functionality for what they are supporting.</p>
<p>Another bug new in beta 9 and since that I reported and got responses from Max, are not being able to use the up arrow to scroll through your chat posts if you need to repost one, his response was as before, not understanding the question!</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Daniels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Fake Al Gore
Could be cached on your machine-- try clearing your cache for your browser (or check in another browser) to see if it still shows up. :)

-Melissa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fake Al Gore<br />
Could be cached on your machine&#8211; try clearing your cache for your browser (or check in another browser) to see if it still shows up.<img src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/1.gif" class="wp-smiley" width="18" height="18"/></p>
<p>-Melissa</p>
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		<title>By: Fake Al Gore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fake Al Gore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mdaniels - Thank you. I still see it, though. Is it normal for me to see my own comments that have been removed?

@CivilisedButCensored: It appears there have been some changes since the last time I used their support. Quick question, though: I&#039;m used to IRC for chatting. Can you not use &quot;/me&quot; to emote? I&#039;m surprised they ignored a potential security vulnerability!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mdaniels &#8211; Thank you. I still see it, though. Is it normal for me to see my own comments that have been removed?</p>
<p>@CivilisedButCensored: It appears there have been some changes since the last time I used their support. Quick question, though: I&#8217;m used to IRC for chatting. Can you not use &#8220;/me&#8221; to emote? I&#8217;m surprised they ignored a potential security vulnerability!</p>
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		<title>By: CivilisedButCensored</title>
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		<dc:creator>CivilisedButCensored</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reported the bug with Yahoo! Chat where you cannot post an emote by prefixing your post with &quot;:&quot;, this is what I got back from Max:

&quot;Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Messenger.

I&#039;m sorry you&#039;ve been having trouble sending emoticons in Yahoo! Chat. I
can understand this must be frustrating.

Yahoo! Chat does support emoticons. For a complete list please visit the
following link:&quot; and it goes on to tell me about smileys.

That was not the answer to my question.

When I reported about 5 bugs, including a security vulnerability, I got this response:

&quot;While we don&#039;t have administrative Yahoo! &quot;chatters&quot; on call, you can
take advantage of the following features we have available for you:&quot;  and it goes on to tell me about ignore feature.

I sent a request asking why chat data pulled the old profile data, and we couldn&#039;t modify them, and the response was &quot;We do not have enough information to understand your question&quot;?  I thought it was quite clear, I responded in clearer terms, nothing heard back til a few days later when I got a satisfaction survey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reported the bug with Yahoo! Chat where you cannot post an emote by prefixing your post with &#8220;:&#8221;, this is what I got back from Max:</p>
<p>&#8220;Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Messenger.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry you&#8217;ve been having trouble sending emoticons in Yahoo! Chat. I<br />
can understand this must be frustrating.</p>
<p>Yahoo! Chat does support emoticons. For a complete list please visit the<br />
following link:&#8221; and it goes on to tell me about smileys.</p>
<p>That was not the answer to my question.</p>
<p>When I reported about 5 bugs, including a security vulnerability, I got this response:</p>
<p>&#8220;While we don&#8217;t have administrative Yahoo! &#8220;chatters&#8221; on call, you can<br />
take advantage of the following features we have available for you:&#8221;  and it goes on to tell me about ignore feature.</p>
<p>I sent a request asking why chat data pulled the old profile data, and we couldn&#8217;t modify them, and the response was &#8220;We do not have enough information to understand your question&#8221;?  I thought it was quite clear, I responded in clearer terms, nothing heard back til a few days later when I got a satisfaction survey.</p>
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		<title>By: mdaniels</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdaniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Fake Al Gore
I&#039;ve pulled down your previous comment (per your request)-- thanks for the change of heart. :)

-Melissa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fake Al Gore<br />
I&#8217;ve pulled down your previous comment (per your request)&#8211; thanks for the change of heart.<img src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/1.gif" class="wp-smiley" width="18" height="18"/></p>
<p>-Melissa</p>
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		<title>By: Fake Al Gore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fake Al Gore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mal_igned: Yes, it is quite thin now that you mention it. Sorry, but I was having a terrible day, and I decided to take it out on the masses here. That was inappropriate of me, and I now wish a moderator would come by and delete that comment.

@Jack: I vaguely remember a UNIX client a long time ago, though I didn&#039;t realize it was targetted directly at GNU/Linux. Yes, it was terrible. While I don&#039;t use GNU/Linux on anything resembling a regular basis, I have quite a few friends that do. They all use AOL, though, so it&#039;s a moot point for me.

@CivilisedButCensored: See my comment to mal_igned above. I&#039;m not sure why, but my experiences (two so far, thankfully) with Yahoo! Messenger support have been fantastic. I get the auto-responder first followed by an article from the knowledgebase that does a poor job of answering my question. After that, though, I got through to a real person that helped me. In both cases, they were bugs with the program that were fixed in later builds, so I know they listen. Maybe things have gotten worse over the years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mal_igned: Yes, it is quite thin now that you mention it. Sorry, but I was having a terrible day, and I decided to take it out on the masses here. That was inappropriate of me, and I now wish a moderator would come by and delete that comment.</p>
<p>@Jack: I vaguely remember a UNIX client a long time ago, though I didn&#8217;t realize it was targetted directly at GNU/Linux. Yes, it was terrible. While I don&#8217;t use GNU/Linux on anything resembling a regular basis, I have quite a few friends that do. They all use AOL, though, so it&#8217;s a moot point for me.</p>
<p>@CivilisedButCensored: See my comment to mal_igned above. I&#8217;m not sure why, but my experiences (two so far, thankfully) with Yahoo! Messenger support have been fantastic. I get the auto-responder first followed by an article from the knowledgebase that does a poor job of answering my question. After that, though, I got through to a real person that helped me. In both cases, they were bugs with the program that were fixed in later builds, so I know they listen. Maybe things have gotten worse over the years.</p>
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		<title>By: Yahoo--one of my love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yahoo--one of my love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used the yahoo for five years,I love it very much.bwo888.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used the yahoo for five years,I love it very much.bwo888.com</p>
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		<title>By: CivilisedButCensored</title>
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		<dc:creator>CivilisedButCensored</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fake Al Gore, whining is the only way now, because the Yahoo! Messenger team just ignore us. Sarah barely responds unless it’s just to point out a feature. Help emails are always answered incorrectly by Max, who is nothing more than somebody who looks for the nearest auto response.

Go to the profile blog and see what a difference it is there, where Melissa responds to people’s concerns, negative or not. It’s more civilised, has many users and you get a feeling they are going somewhere in terms of customer service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fake Al Gore, whining is the only way now, because the Yahoo! Messenger team just ignore us. Sarah barely responds unless it’s just to point out a feature. Help emails are always answered incorrectly by Max, who is nothing more than somebody who looks for the nearest auto response.</p>
<p>Go to the profile blog and see what a difference it is there, where Melissa responds to people’s concerns, negative or not. It’s more civilised, has many users and you get a feeling they are going somewhere in terms of customer service.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What bothers me is Yahoo! had a GNU/Linux version of their client. Then they discontinued it. You can&#039;t even find it now. I want a decent GNU/Linux port already. I understand people weren&#039;t using the GNU/Linux version before- but if you don&#039;t provide something decent don&#039;t expect it to get utilized when there are better applications out like pidgin that do the same essential thing. Unfortunately some of us do want the other desirable features of Yahoo&#039;s messenger. I haven&#039;t been able to use Yahoo&#039;s messenger client in years. It&#039;s really sad. Release a decent GNU/Linux version already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What bothers me is Yahoo! had a GNU/Linux version of their client. Then they discontinued it. You can&#8217;t even find it now. I want a decent GNU/Linux port already. I understand people weren&#8217;t using the GNU/Linux version before- but if you don&#8217;t provide something decent don&#8217;t expect it to get utilized when there are better applications out like pidgin that do the same essential thing. Unfortunately some of us do want the other desirable features of Yahoo&#8217;s messenger. I haven&#8217;t been able to use Yahoo&#8217;s messenger client in years. It&#8217;s really sad. Release a decent GNU/Linux version already.</p>
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