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1. I’ve been using Yahoo Messenger for over 5 years. I just updated the software to version 9. I had no idea it would make many configuration changes to my system including 2 new system services without my knowledge and which I don’t want or need.

   I removed all Yahoo software and discontinued my paid services with Yahoo. I will encourage my public and private network to stay away from Yahoo.

   I feel sorry for people who don’t know much about computers who have to deal with Yahoo’s invasive software. In my opinion Yahoo’s software resembles malware and spyware, and has become another plague on the Internet.

   I’m sorry to say that as a conscientious Internet citizen, Google does not make these kinds of invasive changes without my knowledge and is far superior to Yahoo.

   Comment by Phil — June 2, 2009 #

2. @Phil

   Actually Google does something similar too. It’s called Google Update. It installs with any Google Product you download, without asking.

   @Sarah

   Too bad you guys discontinued Yahoo! Messenger for Vista. It was far superior in terms of system integration than what Y! Messenger 9 provides. It’s the only application in Windows Vista or 7 that doesn’t have a window shadow.

   Comment by Yoko — June 2, 2009 #

3. To clarify, the additional software or settings can be disabled when you’re installing Yahoo! Messenger 9.0. On the initial screen of the installer, just click “Custom” at the top and you can then uncheck the extras you don’t want.

   Thanks,

   Sarah Bacon

   Comment by Administrator — June 2, 2009 #

4. great update i really enjoy the 9.0 version except for one minor flaw. If your using the black background yu cannot see whom is speaking on microphone in a chatroom..this issue has persisted since the new 11 backgrounds have been created in every version of 9.0. It would be great if this minor issue could be fixed …thanks

   Comment by ervin — June 2, 2009 #

5. How can I disable the sign out confirmation dialog “Are you sure you want to sign out of Yahoo! Messenger? You will not be able to send or receive messages.”? Running the latest version on vista. Not opposed to registry edits. Thanks.

   Comment by Brett — June 2, 2009 #

6. brett when it pops up there is a check mark in the pop up window uncheck it

   Comment by ervin — June 2, 2009 #

7. Sarah please read this

   the autoupdate doesnt seem to be working like u said awhile a go a upgrade window would appear down below when there was an update and it doesnt seem to show up you might need to look at it and fix it

   Comment by Angel — June 2, 2009 #

8. Please stop installing other Yahoo applications by *default*. I installed the new Yahoo Messenger and was surprised to find my browser taken over by an icon-heavy Yahoo Toolbar. Something called Yahoo Safe Search had also been installed.

   Why hide such apps under “Custom”? “Custom” is where you go to add extra applications, not remove them.

   I am really perplexed by this experience–you can’t seriously think that such behaviour would encourage me to use these applications?

   And while you’re looking into user experience, could you please get rid of the Flash ads in Messenger as well?

   Comment by SG — June 3, 2009 #

9. I think if it was that obvious I could figure it out. There is no checkbox. Where would you like me to send the screenshot?

   Comment by Brett — June 3, 2009 #

10. Why is yahoo making all these changes to Messenger and deleting the 360s? The new Profile absolutely sucks!

    It’s free and you get what you pay for!

    Comment by Jocelyn — June 3, 2009 #

11. @Phil

    Care to share precisely what “system services” Yahoo Messenger installs rather than making baseless assertions?

    I’m looking at my services and I se no services from Yahoo. To the best of my knowledge Yahoo automatically puts an entry into registry’s HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run node, and has been doing this for the past several version. It can be easily disabled in the Yahoo Messenger preferences.

    For the people who don’t want the Yahoo toolbar/addons, I believe the installer provides options for what gets installed. Try reading when you install a program — it might be under custom installation options. Perhaps i’m wrong and they changed this because I’ve been using the standalone installer from filehippo for a while.

    Comment by wtf — June 3, 2009 #

12. A few other additions that should be noted:

    The insider screen appears partly off the right hand side of the screen if you’re using a 4:3 aspect ratio.

    When you join a chat room, voice chat automatically opens and so does the text toolbar.

    The chat screen wont stick to the right hand side of the screen.

    Of course, these additions are bugs, when did I first report them, back in the beta, when do we envisage they be fixed? Never.

    Comment by Sean — June 3, 2009 #

13. all these nice features and yet to see the one that i really wish you would, a disable all bots in chat rooms button. when will that happen? probably never ass you are happy to tell the advertisers that your chats are full, just not that 99% of those are bots. I use paltalk suggest you do the same it s a superior program in every way.

    Comment by tom — June 3, 2009 #

14. Sara

    There are several problems with version 9 .. on Vista SP2, when you close out of a chat room .. and you EXIT messenger .. it system tray icon\program will not close. This only happens when you go to chat.. I have to go to task manager and close the process.

    Also, in ‘chat’ when you click on a legit web cam .. you get the message the cam you wish to view is ‘not connected’.

    Until the above two problems are fixed .. I have no reason to continue using v9 .. I have re-installed 8x and it works just fine for me .. Vista SP2 and Windows 7 rc

    Rick

    Comment by Rick — June 3, 2009 #

15. Ok, I have had messenger for yahoo since 1998 and I have had no problems!!! All I have to say is READ before you go pushing buttons. I ALWAYS have to tell my mom in law that. Ask for help. Plus it did give the option if I wanted to install add-ons, tool bar, etc…there are plenty of other internet sites that are “plagued”.. yahoo is least of the problems.

    Comment by J. — June 3, 2009 #

16. I just noticed ads at the bottom of my chat windows. Is this new? I haven’t seen them before until tonight. Just a line of text right under the area to type messages in.

    Comment by DT — June 3, 2009 #

17. this messenger is so buggy. I had to uninstall it.

    but I have twitter and facebook life now.

    Comment by yolarrydabomb — June 4, 2009 #

18. i don’t like Yahoo they ruined their services and their messenger sucks compared to the other IM messengers out there , there is many problems with it and have been for more than two years now and no one bothering from their teams to fix these problems where the other IM messengers play nicely on any computer

    Comment by Daniel — June 4, 2009 #

19. i agree with most yahoo really sucks if you put it side by side with msn or skype it has too many bugs and take forever for their team to fix anything (that if they decide to fix it in the first place) its sad to see it ended up this way when it was a great program years ago

    Comment by steven — June 4, 2009 #

20. Realy sarah i dont knw what you doing with yahoo… yahoo is now realy boaring.. not good service.. always Voice problem when we call .. allways file transfer problem .. always camera problem.. always login id problemm… ohh .. new verson cant help this.. make it better pleassssseeeeeeeeeeee.. regards

    Comment by Anna — June 4, 2009 #

21. after reading some of the posts, I’m beginning to think that might be the problem with me not being able to use my Yahoo messenger any longer – because I have not downloaded the new 9.0 version. (I’m not even sure that I want to either.)
    What I want to know is “Why, all of a sudden, won’t my Yahoo Messenger load?” I miss not being about to talk to my business associates.

    Comment by Theresa — June 4, 2009 #

22. As much as these people are complaining you’d think they was paying for this service.

    Just my 2 cents worth….

    Comment by me — June 4, 2009 #

23. Not paying is not an excuse for poor quality.

    Comment by Sean — June 5, 2009 #

24. Can anyone help me get the domino game back on yahoo messenger or tell me why it doesn’t work any longer? I have Vista, and when I downloaded IE8, I lost the domino game. I recently upgraded to yahoo msgr 9.0 and the latest Java but nothing seems to help and I haven’t found answers anywhere. I’ve been using yahoo messenger for 14 years and want to continue. Thank you

    Comment by Lynn — June 5, 2009 #

25. @Lynn

    I don’t know why it doesn’t work inside of Yahoo! Messenger, but I found this while browsing Yahoo! Games.

    “We’ve detected that you are running the latest version of Internet Explorer (IE8), which is not fully compatible with some of our games. If you are running into difficulties playing our parlor games, we suggest the following: Once you have selected a game room but before you join a table, click on the “Options” button, select “Small Windows” and then click “Done.” Until your browser is fully compatible with our games, please continue to play with this option selected.”

    Comment by Fake Al Gore — June 5, 2009 #

26. “An update is available!”… AGAIN?
    Yahoo! should post somewhere a CHANGELOG for each new version available.
    Thank You!

    Comment by bogdan — June 6, 2009 #

27. Hello every body how are we doing this evening

    Comment by Frankie — June 6, 2009 #

28. I have downloaded messenger about 10 times now, it is no where to be found. I used Yahoo Messenger for many years now and really like it. I have Vista now, is that why I can’t download it? I checked the allow downloads from yahoo button. I have dial up modem and it takes hours to download and then it doesn’t work. Help

    Comment by Rose — June 6, 2009 #

29. Yup, you folks sure are trying to force us to upgrade to 9.0, however the problem is I have a Linksys CIT310 Phone I use with messenger, and it doesn’t work with 9.0. So now everytime the log in is slow as dirt as it downloads the recommendation I upgrade….except I can’t upgrade.

    How about making it so when I refuse the upgrade it remembers that and doesn’t make using messenger so painful when I try to log in?

    Better yet make 9.0 work with the darn phone, I use 9.0 on my laptop and it rocks, alas at home I want to be able to walk around and make calls.

    Comment by chris — June 7, 2009 #

30. I just installed the new update that came out recently, and I was a little dissatisfied with the fact that where it used to tell me that the other person was typing something to me, now, there is an ad there… honestly, if I am going to be doing shopping, i dont need an ad to help me… and it also doesn’t tell me all the time when somebody is typing like it used to… now it tells me when they start typing, and i sit there wondering if they are still typing or if they have walked away… please bring back the old typing notification… please!!!!!

    Comment by anonymous — June 8, 2009 #

31. Im just wondering why im having so much trouble to login to messenger,i didnt have a problem before loggin i just dont understand,everytime i try to go to messenger and to log in its always says cancel and just today my contacts doesnt shows,how could i talk and see my kids in the philippines if this thing always happened,its always shows up download,download and it will stop downloading,WHY?i havent seen my children for nine years this is the only way to make me and them happy to talk and see each other.did i did something wrong?looking forward for your answer thank you and god bless..

    Comment by teresa — June 9, 2009 #

32. I read all the comments above – some I agree with, some I don’t. Here’s my take on Version 9

    1 – It’s still too buggy to be live. Not being able to directly view a cam in a chat room sucks. Workaround – double lick on the user to bring up a chat window, then view their cam from there. It does work, but it’s extra work.

    2 – I too wonder why they tucked all those “extra’s” under the custom install. I ALWAYS go for a custom install, because with another company ( MICROSOFT ) you don’t get all the features unless you go custom. So I’m used that, and I was surprised they tucked that stuff in there – I purposely killed it.

    3 – one NICE thing – you don’t have to bring up a browser anymore to type in the “code” – nice touch

    4 – Even after a full scratch install, here are some more bugs:

    4A – Sometimes yahoo hangs on exit and doesn’t exit fully – Workaround – kill with Task Manager

    4B – If you are trying to get in a busy room and you do it too many times, the thing will “hang” and stop working for a while ( I think about 6 hours ).

    4C – Can’t directly view a cam in chat – see item #1

    4D – Yahoo still eventually dies due to memory usage issues – it still leaks too much memory – although it’s better than before

    Comment by Jon — June 9, 2009 #

33. (1 & 4C) I complained about that months and months ago. And what did I get in return for my highly detailed explanation of the problem to Customer “Care”? An auto-reply with advice on getting MY cam to work.

    The “work-around” doesn’t always work if the message is “Not Connected.”

    Comment by mal_igned — June 9, 2009 #

34. I’m very happy to see that someone else has noticed the same bug that I have referred many times here in this blog !

    “…/and it also doesn’t tell me all the time when somebody is typing like it used to… now it tells me when they start typing, and i sit there wondering if they are still typing or if they have walked away… please bring back the old typing notification… please!!!!!”

    Yes indeed!!!

    Comment by poupart — June 9, 2009 #

35. why people who chat with me can view my webcam.,.,huhuhu.,

    Comment by ciedtra — June 10, 2009 #

36. I am running W2k on a modified Optiplex GX1. I originally upgraded to Yahoo! Messenger 9 (from 8) because I thought it would probably give greater cross-compatibility, recognition, and features, with mac users. And I was right, it did. Actually that was the only real important new feature and benefit for me. The new layout was nicer in a lot of small ways. Eventually, I uninstalled the program, and went back to the last version of Yahoo! 8. Version had a much bigger ‘footprint’; the benefits were not worth the additional system resources, that I really did not have to spare. As it is, Yahoo! does have a big memory leak – it takes more handles than any other program that I run, by far. The program is stable, I just wish that I could reclaim that memory. When I ‘downgraded’ back to 8, I neglected to set the archiving to ‘on’ with the first usage. (By default it is ‘off’; who knew?) So the first time that I logged out, it deleted all of my archives… I had records going back four years! Using an undelete program, I was able to salvage most of them, , although I have yet to actually try to access the files. Yahoo! CS was not very sympathetic with my plight on this issue. Not sure why they are so militant about requiring this upgrade…

    Comment by sruleigh — June 10, 2009 #

37. Yahoo still has not posted in plain English the answer to two simple and important questions: (1) What operating systems and/or browsers will be required to use Yahoo Messenger 8 or 9 and which ones will not longer be supported; (2) To what extent will Yahoo Messenger be intertwined with or separate from Yahoo 360?

    If Yahoo’s purpose in forcing these changes is in part to prune contact lists and free subscibers it should prominently post this in plain English as well as what it wants done in the way of pay service to avoid loss of the older services. Yahoo does not like communicating in plain language, preferring computer jargon. Perhaps it does not want plain language only subscribers.

    Why do so many techies seem unable to write in plain language anyway?

    Comment by my56thchoice — June 10, 2009 #

38. I uploaded the 9.0. Now, when I send an im, the recipient is seeing double messages. How do I make this stop?

    Comment by Sheri — June 10, 2009 #

39. Is there anyway to get rid of those stupid ads at the bottom? I HATE the latest update. I can’t see when someone is typing half the time, and the ads are beyond annoying. Change it back!!

    Comment by Cassie — June 11, 2009 #

40. Is there any chance that we can get a spell checker written into Yahoo Messenger for Windows? Please! The Mac version has one and it’s very helpful. If this is available already, please tell me how to enable it (I know the Vista version had this feature).

    Thanks!

    Comment by Shannon — June 11, 2009 #

41. The new yahoo version 9 SUCKS! Is there a way to go back to the version 8?

    Comment by Lindsey — June 14, 2009 #

42. Teresa, you poor lady. There are may other messengers out there that give you access to your yahoo messenger list. I’d put them here, but I’m worried yahoo would delete them, please message me on the username: oftenpetron. I’ll help you all I can.

    I promise I’m a woman and not some nasty man out to say horrible things. It’s safe to add me.

    Comment by Louisa — June 16, 2009 #

43. Today is the first time I’ve noticed the “Ads” at the bottom of my messge chat window and it’s causing it to freeze up when I try to type. I’m using 9.0 and just when I thought I was getting used to it, you keep making these weird changes. I don’t understand why there on the bottom of the window now instead of back on the bottom of my buddy list where it didn’t do any damage even tho it was a pain in the neck at first to look at. (maybe that’s the problem we got used to seeing it and ignored it) so you moved it where it would annoy us again. And I don’t need some wise guy answering on here about this being a free service. It’s always been a free service, so if you don’t have something positive to help us correct the problems, keep quiet.

    Comment by Joy — June 16, 2009 #

44. FYI for all you users that are wanting to see when the other person has stopped typing on your message window. If you read the above blog on what’s new in 9.0 about half way down Sarah explains how to go back to the other format. I used it and worked like a charm. I’m using option “0″ where I see all they print on one line and it’s like it was before. I too was unhappy with some of these changes, but I’m learning if I read the Blogs I can figure some of it out and make some corrections. I also like reading some of the input on here for leads on some of this stuff. However all the negative complaining is such a waste of energy and helps none of us. Be positive and offer good advice and maybe we’ll all be better off. Yahoo is not any different than anyone else, there all making big changes and we have to live with it.

    Comment by Joy — June 17, 2009 #

45. Microsoft why don’t you concentrate on fixing all the bugs, then focusing all your time on adding features?

    Many people can no longer see their contacts since updating to version 9.0. Why don’t you fix these problems first.

    Comment by Errol — June 17, 2009 #

46. All I know, I love Yahoo Messenger and use it as a main source of communication. Faithful messenger user, I love the extras and use many!
    One thing, can we get a smiley icon that salutes the soldiers? That would be really cool!

    Thanks,
    Ms. Mannor

    Comment by Ms. A. Mannor — June 18, 2009 #

47. Hi,
    one feature which surprisingly is still missing is the search feature on the message archive. I have been using yahoo messenger for the past 4~5 years and have tough time when i have to look for some discussions from message archive.

    Comment by manish malik — June 19, 2009 #

48. I agree with you, “manish malik”. A search feature for the message archive would be very useful!

    Comment by george — June 19, 2009 #

49. I just wish it ran as fast as the really old versions i really love new features but im so tired of things bogging down my PC

    Comment by Chris — June 19, 2009 #

50. I downloaded the new 9.0 version and ever since i can’t sign in to messenger. I have changed my password three times thinking it would help and still no change. What should I do???? Please reply

    Comment by Rania — June 19, 2009 #

51. Hey ya I want the new messenger 9.0 also with the messenger 8.1 skins.I like the 9.0 skins a lot but I have some friends which want the old skins

    Comment by DarthMan — June 20, 2009 #

52. I’ve a simple question: Why did we do away with the old yahoo message system of having multiple aliases with separate profiles? I understand if it was a strain on the servers but now there’s no way to change nicknames, recently I’ve been unable to even get to it in the round about way, that server has been taken down. Why? It just seems as though the chat has been abandoned basically, to be filled with bots, user rooms removed, and a broken censoring system. It’s… discouraging, to say the least.

    Comment by Lloyd — June 21, 2009 #

53. YIM 9.0 is annoying, it also installed Yahoo Toolbar without asking me. YIM 9.0 pops up some weird messages even if I’m using antivirus program. I uninstalled YIM 9.0 and will never use any Yahoo “services” again.

    Comment by Mike Stoger — June 22, 2009 #

54. I have downloaded the new 9.0 messenger and it says everytime that it failed. It tells me to re-download it and when I do that, it STILL FAILS!!! What can I do to finally finish the download???

    Comment by Brandy — June 23, 2009 #

55. I had to uninstall it.

    Bugs:

    1. Buttons at the top and their click area are not lined up (as in, I would have to hover my mouse about a millimeter BELOW the minimize button to actually minimize it).

    2. SystrayIcon is gone. No idea why but one day it just disappeared (last week). This sucks because I have it set to hide the button when minimized so without a systray icon, well, you can imagine the trouble of re-opening it (I already have a million buttons open on the taskbar, I don’t like having messenger ones there, systray is where they belong).

    To be honest, that’s about it. I don’t care about ads because I don’t look at them and only use yahoo for communication between work peers (they use it and therefore I have to).

    IMHO any company that adds “suspect or malware looking” things in a custom install is definitely not to be trusted. Custom install is where you go to choose to add new things, not where you disable things that are hidden there because the company knows no one actually wants them (in which case, perhaps instead of hiding them, create something worthwhile that people want to install or hell, even give people the option right up front which says “my stuff is trustable, see, it’s in the open” instead of “my stuff must suck because I have to hide that it’s being installed”).

    My $0.02

    Comment by mattm — June 24, 2009 #

56. Edit to add: I also lost all message archives when I reinstalled back to 8 which sucked. Message archives (or anything) shouldn’t be set to delete by default like that, especially when there’s to potential to delete more than just the past session’s worth of messages).

    A better approach is to take away the option to get rid of archives after messenger closes. OR, and this one is even better but might be too hard for yahoo to implement, perhaps when closing, ONLY delete messages from CURRENT SESSIONS (as in, if it’s been closed and re-opened, a new session has begun and if there are archives from the previous session there that weren’t deleted due to choice, they should never be deleted unless asked or by user choice).

    Comment by mattm — June 24, 2009 #

57. I noticed that there is no longer a windows default skin (that uses native Win32 UI widgets). What happened to that? I would prefer not to use the memory-hogging, GDI-demanding skins, please (resizing the window guarantees 100% CPU usage and is slooow).

    Comment by mrcode — July 5, 2009 #

58. Ha! I’m glad a Google query of ‘Yahoo 9 sucks’ brought me here. I see it still has the same memory leaks, improper OS bindings, et al as version 7 and 8 had. I’m still using 6,0,0,1750. Well, I just signed in and saw “System: Warning: This version of Messenger will expire on August 15, 2009.” Goodbye, Yahoo. I don’t trust Google either so my friends, family and I are migrating to Skype alone.

    Comment by James — July 5, 2009 #

59. OK guys, still haven’t heard a solution to the asinine prompt “Are you sure you want to sign out of Yahoo Messenger?”. There seems NO way to disable this BS and I am sick and tired of it. YES, Yahoo, I am absolutely sure I want to logout, otherwise I wouldn’t have clicked on “Sign Out” from the menu…

    Comment by Jenna — July 8, 2009 #

60. Yahoo Messenger sucks and the chatrooms even more.

    Yahoo Messenger and chatrooms are nothing more than SPAM servers…and Yahoo knows this and chooses to do nothing about it.

    Really…really wish Yahoo would get rid of them and go belly-up financially.

    As someone else has already mentioned…Yahoo is a plague on the internet.

    Comment by YahoSucks — July 27, 2009 #

61. Anything after version 7 is riddled with ANNOYING ADS in the chat and messenger windows!

    This is the main reason they are FORCING THE UPGRADE. After I upgraded to 8 and saw what was going on, I deleted it and went right back to 7.

    As a Yahoo shareholder, I can see the fact of business is to make money but if you annoy your customers too much they will go elsewhere!

    AOL messenger does not force upgrades, so they beat Yahoo hands down.

    Comment by john — July 30, 2009 #

62. when i go into my account its not letting me edit my memeber info at all

    Comment by christina — July 31, 2009 #

63. people are talking nonsense.. if you dont want any programs installed by yahoo, then why dont you just uninstall them? It’s not yahoo to blame. it’s us who dont know much about computers.

    Comment by john — September 5, 2009 #

64. I saw the Yahoo Toolbar under Custom Insall and didn’t take it.If you noticed you have no choice but to let Yahoo give you Automatic Updates.It says it is required and I don’t even let Microsoft give me automatic Updates.I check to see what updates are available and choose the ones I want or need.Also why is the new Yahoo Email being pushed on us.I like the Yahoo Classic.I have to login under 4 different links and Yahoo goes to the new mail.I get the hanging hourglass and have to end the program.It says program Yahoo Email not responding.It takes awhile to get to my Yahoo Classic Email That works without freezing up.

    Comment by Mike — October 10, 2009 #

65. Personally I think we all should quit using Yahoo products and move on to something else. That way they would either have to fix the flaws or get out of business. A lot of this bullsh_t is just a way for them to see how the public will react to a certain situation. My saying is if its not broke don’t try to fix it. Just leave it like it is.

    Comment by Cyko — October 10, 2009 #

66. @brett and ervin …
    re: “are you sure you want to sign out of Yahoo Messenger”

    I was having the same frustration — the check box was not appearing in my dialog box. But I figured out how to make it appear: Go to Preferences –> General. In the last section, make sure to check the box, “Sign out of Messenger when I close the main window.”

    Now, when you close, the dialog box WILL have the check box for “ask on exit.” Uncheck the box. After doing that, you can go back and uncheck the “sign out of Messenger” box. (Or leave as is. Doesn’t matter.) I tested this and it works.

    Comment by Daniel — November 15, 2009 #

67. A really annoying bug that the Y!M programmers forgot to put a checkbox in sign out confirmation dialog box…but Daniel’s way worked fine…Thanks

    Comment by NaViD — November 19, 2009 #

68. I want to thank Daniel for his advice on how to shut off that prompt. Every site I went to said “tick the box” but I had no box to tick. You should get a job with yahoo, Daniel!

    Comment by emma — January 21, 2010 #

69. i rather have my9.0 version of yahoo back the higher upgrade goes the worse they get ..

    Comment by Cindy Johnson — May 4, 2010 #

70. thanks daniel! i have been stuck with that annoying thing for years!

    Comment by yahoonoob — June 28, 2011 #

71. I just want my mail as it was originally! I don’t want any more adds etc! I use Yahoo Mail for mail and nothing else. I have had it for several years, ten or more and want to keep it that way! Thank you.

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