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Chat room upgrade & Mac note

September 13, 2007 on 1:44 pm | In Mac version, News |

Hi everyone,

Just a heads up that we’ll be upgrading the Yahoo! Messenger chat rooms this afternoon (approx. 2-5pm PST). As it’s taking place, you may encounter some instability when entering or using the chat rooms. We appreciate your patience while we complete the upgrade.

Once the upgrade is complete, you should find that the room lobby counts are more accurate and that the voice spammers you may have encountered at the launch of Captcha are no longer prevalent. In addition, we’re also introducing some changes to make Captcha more friendly for the visually impaired.

And thanks to everyone for your feedback on the new Yahoo! Messenger for Mac 3.0 Beta 2 (rock on Adam!). The team is already plugging away on the next release to address some of the bugs and to add improvements to areas like the chat rooms. We’ll keep you posted!

Sarah Bacon
Product Manager

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  1. Thanks once again Sarah, your updates are always appreciated. Hopefully everyone can quit complaining soon.

    Comment by Parry Hotter — September 13, 2007 #

  2. Thanks for the update! Another issue you should fix in this upgrade is the IDs not leaving the room even after getting disconnected (forcefully/booted) from chat. If the ids remain stuck in room then slowly it will take away the spaces available in the rooms which is already limited to 50 per chatroom.
    Also please add a captcha popup box in messenger itself instead of opening browser everytime for verification, it gets kind of irritating after sometime opening so many browser windows just for changing through different chatrooms.
    Last but not the least please limit the number of connections that are allowed from the same ip address to yahoo chat server within 1 chatroom. Yahoo should limit it to at maximum 3 connections per ip address, then we won’t have so many users using multiple ids in same chatroom to eventually lockout the room for other users.

    Comment by Rick — September 13, 2007 #

  3. Ah, thank ya. Please say you’re going to progressively address the other little issues too. Thanks! =)

    Comment by Venom — September 13, 2007 #

  4. These are much needed improvements so I’m glad that they’re being made. Bravo Yahoo!

    Comment by Adam [Torseq Tech] — September 13, 2007 #

  5. Out with the old bugs.. in with the new bugs.

    Heh. Heh.

    There’s one very annoying thing when you’re doing voice chat. When you press the Talk button and someone PMs you, you lose focus on the chatroom window which causes the Talk button to pop up and knocks you off the mic. It’s very annoying. It makes no difference whether you let PMs go to a separate window or not, the window still loses focus.

    By the way, this is very annoying when you’re typing too. You start typing to someone, you get a PM and it steals focus and the typed characters go to the wrong window.

    Also, I hope you guys are planning on a feature in messenger (client-side or server-side) for flood protection, which would kick in if someone from IP address w.x.y.z sends 50 messages inside of 5 seconds. There should also be an option to auto-ignore anyone hitting the threshold. It won’t solve booting, but it’s a very simple way to cut way down on it. mIRC and other clients have had that for years.

    By the way, I also hope you consider a 2nd type of ignore. You select a user and press an Ignore All Communication From This User’s IP Address. You already have the IP address on the server-side, so it wouldn’t be very difficult to add a simple IP block per session on the server-side.

    Anyway, it looks like chat is doing better these days, except for today. There is flakiness going on, presumeably from the update. I keep getting Room Full messages after I enter a valid CAPTCHA. I used to get Room Full before entering the CAPTCHA, which was far less a pain in the ***.

    Comment by Elbo — September 13, 2007 #

  6. Hi Sarah,

    At first I was a little annoyed with the new Captcha security layer, but I thought it would be worth it if it kept the cam bots out. For a while it seemed to work, but today every room I entered had several cam bots all asking me to sign up for their website. Guess they found a way around the verification process. Also I now get the message that a room is full AFTER I do the Captcha verification, not before. What a waste of time that is! I doubt the first 10 rooms under a specific topic ALL have 50 people in them… especially when I get into one and all I find are cam bots!

    –Rand

    Comment by randseed — September 13, 2007 #

  7. Your new chapta or whatever it’s called is not right. No one can see text or the chatters in the chatrooms with or without ytunnel. So what good is your new security if you can’t chat? No wonder people hate yahoo any more. You make all these new changes but you don’t fix the proper problems that need to be fixed so folks can use your chat program. What’s up with that? Who cares if you take out the bots or not when you can’t even see anyone chatting? Useless fixes and not addressing the more serious problems just doesn’t make sense!! I’d rather have bots and be able to chat with friends then have no bots and not be able to see my friends!!! C’mon get with the program here!! Fix the chatrooms the way they should be so we can chat and to hell with the bots! We all have iggy sheesh!

    Comment by deb — September 13, 2007 #

  8. I have to admit that this is the most I’ve seen Yahoo do with their chatrooms in years, so for that alone I tip my hat to you, at least you are finally trying to do something to take care of all the problems.

    Also those of you complaining…notice that the times for maintance are pacific time. As of me writing this they still have another hour approximately of maintance time left. I know you all are getting tired of all this, but please at least recognize they are trying to make things better and give them the time they are saying they need.

    Thanks again Sarah for the updates and for your staff’s continual improvement/debugging of the chat.

    Comment by Jon — September 13, 2007 #

  9. Well I just hope I can keep sound now and not let the voice bots have it .

    and I ‘m wondering here every time you all do a update the rooms that are already open close, This is getting old now cant ya find a way for that not to happen geesh!!!

    Comment by Julianna — September 13, 2007 #

  10. Thanks for keeping us informed. Pleeeeeeeease get it figured out. I am going through yahoo withdrawls.

    Comment by badass — September 13, 2007 #

  11. 2 things 1st one is with a bug in Yahoo Messenger 8.1 that has always been there as the 1st 8.1 was released now this was not in 8.0 and down but only with 8.1 when you format the pc and reinstall Yahoo Messenger 8.1 some times on signing on and you try to send a user a pm or they pm you you cant see there text or you cant see theres you will have to sign off Yahoo Messenger then sign back on then you can see there text and yours , The other thing is a lot of users still like 7.0 as with anything above 7.0 if you turn pm’s off to users not on your list if you go in a chat room you cant see no users type only if there on your list with that being said its a down fall because most users who do like Yahoo Messenger and do enjoy chatting have to keep there im’s open just so they can see users typing i think Sarah Bacon and the workers over there should change it back to if you turn your pm’s off then only people on your friends list can pm you and if you go in rooms you can see and others can see your post as how it is now like i said people are pretty much forced to keep there pm’s on and anyone can pm bomb people still or send cam bombs and that so can yous change that and fix that bug thanks in a new build of 8.1 Thanks

    Comment by Cisco — September 13, 2007 #

  12. Thanks for the update will wait and see how the new changes make a difference to chat.

    Comment by Banger — September 13, 2007 #

  13. Ah so maybe that’s why I was having some trouble for about 15 minutes today, tried to enter a chat room so I entered the captcha then it would go to a webpage with a 999 error. Ok that’s cool. It only happen that one time.

    I also made the mistake of doing the Yahoo Messenger update through Yahoo Messenger itself, a dialog box appeared to update. That was a bad thing, now I can hear voice but all my voice controls are greyed out. I can’t even hit the talk button and chat away in voice. Going to uninstall Messenger and install on older version to fix this until a fix is issued.

    It’s getting there, unfortunately with a lot of the people having left including a lot of friends I used to talk to on Yahoo it could be a situation of too little too late.

    Comment by KBSoftware — September 13, 2007 #

  14. The room list for for Karaoke Club and The Fight Room is all messed up. You missed the Voice Chat rooms on all your chat updates, Just try to enter any of the rooms. Still getting errors when trying to enter these rooms.
    Will they be fixed soon?

    Thanks

    Comment by Nelly — September 13, 2007 #

  15. Why would anyone want more the one connection to a chat room. Those that use more then one are just playing games. Isn’t there enough games going on? I would suggest only one IP connection per chatter. Eleminate those getting into the room and then booting , cloneing or what ever. I also agree with fixing the ignor so it ignor’s the IP address and not just a name.

    As for the other problems some folks seem to be having, I havent had any problems getting into the Kansas Rooms.

    I would also like to see yahoo come up with a way of booting those that log onto messenger and their name sits there for days and the individual is not even at home. This may lighten the load on the servers.

    I will cross my fingers and also hope my long time friends have not givin up on yahoo, because of the mess in the last few weeks.

    Ya have to admit it Sarah. You knew it was coming, why wasn’t anything done to prevent the current situation.

    PS. Test the updates, make sure they work first.

    Comment by kssnuggle — September 13, 2007 #

  16. a few things that Nelly typed
    I also agree with fixing the ignor so it ignor’s the IP address and not just a name.
    That made No Sense.
    also
    I will cross my fingers and also hope my long time friends have not givin up on yahoo, because of the mess in the last few weeks.
    Hum it has not been a few weeks its been evr since Oct 6, 2006 note its alot better from back then as you can get in to rooms good now but they still can fix some bugs in there Messenger as i typed a few post above
    also i seen you typed lots of oops that need fix as it was a hard time for me to understand some of the things you typed.

    Comment by Cisco — September 13, 2007 #

  17. Welcome. I have a few more bugs i’ve identified in Mac client too. I continue to update my report daily. I’ve also been looking over CSS code used to control some functions and see need for improvement for rendering speed. Beta 2 runs quite slow on older

    Comment by Adam — September 13, 2007 #

  18. If yahoo would implement the 1 ip - 1 user those e-cafe would greatly affected by it and probabably gone bankrupt also yahoo would loose alot o f costumers like hotels and some other establishments that uses LAN connections. If you are talking to eliminate the room fillers/booters that uses multiple ID’s in the room they can easily by-pass this by using proxies..

    Comment by hard_kill — September 13, 2007 #

  19. OK howd you guys screw this one up?????? the captcha pops up BEFORE the room status??? so now I HAVE to type in the damn captcha only to find out the room is FULL???? GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER!

    Comment by SICK_OF_IT — September 13, 2007 #

  20. thanks

    Comment by fatou — September 13, 2007 #

  21. Yahoo,

    Get rid of the security layer. It isn’t stopping the bots one bit. I have to enter in a security code for each chat room, and now, I find out after entering the code, that the room is full. Waste!!!

    The rooms still don’t accurately reflect the number of chatters in the room. Seems the upgrade didn’t help at all.

    Comment by Charlie — September 13, 2007 #

  22. Bravo. These fixes were very much needed. I’m sure there’s still a few kinks here and there (nothing is bug free), but most of the major ones are fixed now.

    And to kssnuggle, limiting Yahoo! Chat to one login per IP address is not a plausible solution. Not every computer on the internet has a unique internet IP address. Often times, a single IP address is shared by multiple users via Network Address Translation. This doesn’t only apply to home networks either. Most businesses and many small Internet Service Providers use NAT so they don’t have to assign each computer unique internet IP address.

    Comment by Infinite Luta — September 13, 2007 #

  23. oh and by mac team working on problem you mean Karl Adam right? he’s the one and ONLY Mac messenger developer with tristan gone work for apple.

    Comment by Adam — September 13, 2007 #

  24. They can’t do anything based on limiting connections from one IP, folks.

    Think of companies and proxy servers in general. When you are at work next time, visit http://www.whatismyip.com. Then have your friends do the same. If you have a corporate firewall you will all have the same IP (or couple, if multiple pipes).

    So what you suggest would lock out hundreds of legitimate different users from one company, for example.

    Comment by LearnNetworking — September 13, 2007 #

  25. Looking at what has changed, the way the captcha verification now works along with chat error messages is quite problematic…

    When you join a room, you are now prompted to verify regardless of whether the room is available or not. It’s not until AFTER you complete the verification that you receieve any chat error messages (room full, if the room is full; user refused join, if the room number doesn’t exist yet; or communication error, if the entire roomspace is full). This means that if you want to make another attempt to get in to a room that’s full, you have to verify again. This can get old very quickly and makes getting in to full rooms very difficult. Users don’t want to verify only to find out that the room they were trying to join is full or otherwise unavailable.

    Yahoo needs to seriously consider going back to the old behavior of reporting chat errors (including “this room is full”) BEFORE the captcha validation process. With the old behavior, you would count toward the room’s user limit apon entering the “validation room”. This would assure that you would successfully enter the room after entering the captcha. If you didn’t verify within 5 minutes, you’d get disconnected from chat and the space reserved for you in the room would be released. As long as there’s a mechanism to flush unvalidated names out (which there was), I see no problem with that system.

    Against the popular belief, the fact that unverified users took up room space was NOT the reason rooms’ maximum user limit was going down. It was due to old chat sessions not getting signed out when you start a new chat session. This problem is now fixed. Altering the captcha so you have to veirify before finding out a room is full was an unnessassry step that only makes everything harder for the end user.

    While I’m pointing issues, how about some of the common problems with Yahoo! Messenger 8.1? They’re all chat related. These include the following:

    1.) Using the feature to “ignore anyone who is not on my Messenger list” also ignores chat text from people in the room if they aren’t on your buddy list. If ignoring chat text from non-buddies has to be a feature in Yahoo! Messenger, it should be OPTIONAL aside from the option to ignore users not added to your messenger list. That way you can prevent unsolicited instant messages while still being able to effectively use chat rooms.

    2.) The ‘auto ignore’ autrophy filter is broken. When a user triggers the auto ignore filter, it attempts to ignore your own username rather than ignoring the flooder. The end result is constantly receiving a “you can not ignore yourself” message when someone floods a room. If the flood is fast enough, it can even lock up messenger.

    3.) The chat profanifty word filter doesn’t honor the perference set from Yahoo Messenger preferences. The cause is simple. The WordFilter value is saved to the registry location “HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\yahoo\pager\profiles\[Yahoo!_ID_Here]\Chat” yet is loaded and applied from “HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\yahoo\pager\”.

    I know Yahoo! wants chat to work and are capable of doing so, but they must follow through with it and make sure everything works.

    Comment by Infinite Luta — September 13, 2007 #

  26. OK the problem we have now is when changing rooms, it moves to the new room, the Captcha web page comes up and then after entering the verification code the room reports full. So you end up in limbo…. Before the room would report full before the Captcha page came up…

    Comment by Chris — September 14, 2007 #

  27. can u guys understand simple English or u are just plain stupid? The title of this post is yahoo update meaning they are doing something in their server right at this very moment can’t u just wait until yahoo announce that the update is finished? Of course ul have some issue when u join rooms right now! thats the reason why we have an update right?

    second point u always said u can still see porn bots!!! hello stupid! yahoo never said captcha will elimanate porn bots for good they say it will just reduce the numbers coz it will take away the auto login capability and it is proven effective!. Yah sure u can still see 2 or 3 porn bots it might be joined manually in that room but hey use the ignore option for yahoo’s sake!!!!!if the bot send u a PM ignore it and report as spam is that simple? i wouldn’t take 5 sec to do that not unless u are mentally disable! in case u are (meaning a retard) u have no bussiness chatting u should confine urself in an institution!

    Yahoo is trying to address the issue let them do their job!!! and please while yahoo is doing the update get ur big fat ass out in ur basement meet some real people and have some taste of real life!

    PS… thank u yahoo for making the update “Yahoo Rules!”

    Comment by jamesbond — September 14, 2007 #

  28. Ok whats the deal… The rooms are fillin up w/bots again n it’s makin it down right impossible for real people to get in n even more the bots aren’t leaving… I’ve been in one chat room most of the nite n these non talkin no profile bots are still in there n the real chatters who want in can’t get in… This is sooooo bs… So what did someone find a crack or something… I thought the Captcha was suppose to keep most of them out aint the case in the 30sh rooms… what gives

    Comment by Irriatated chatter — September 14, 2007 #

  29. Sorry for my last post it’s just been frustratin tonight… Friends can’t get in takin an hour at least for some… I love the idea of the Captcha, it is workin but for some odd reason tonight there are a lot more bots maybe it is the upgrade, they snuck in somehow… I’ll just be glad this will get bk to normal I hope… (Without so many bots please)

    Ty n sorry

    Comment by Irriatated chatter — September 14, 2007 #

  30. I’ve been waiting for a few more updates to the chatrooms and user validation (captcha) to see how things were going to go. I definitely applaud the efforts made by the development team as there’s been a significant reduction in bots although there’s still quite a few around (far less than the estimated 85% before the addition of the user validation). I imagine that some of the spammers are so intent they’ll eventually have the proverbial monkey throwing the switch. Although this last update fixed a few problems it introduced a few more:

    1) A bug in the chat servers causes the user validation code to be accepted, the user added to the room but they do not receive the list of users in the room or messages. They can however send messages and be seen by other users in the room. This may be related to #4 below. In some cases the user validation code is accepted but they are never added to the room even at all.

    2) You now get the ‘Room Full’ error after entering the user validation code. While this might have been a quick trade off due to the problems with the previous issue of rooms being full of people waiting to be validate it’s extremely annoying. The main problem is that you always get the user validation request EVEN if the room is already full.

    3) IIRC there have been at least two new releases of 8.1 (builds 419 and 421) since the introduction of the user validation code yet no integration with Messenger. At the very least you could have it embedded in the chat window or a popup window.

    4) Older versions of messenger can no longer enter chat rooms. They still receive the user validation request but even if the correct validation code is provided they do not receive the list of users and cannot see room text. They are however added to the room and can send messages to the room. Not really a big deal as I personally would like to see the servers block older versions of the YMSG protocol.

    Comment by Chet Simpson — September 14, 2007 #

  31. The whole chat experience is lost with the latest modifications. Trying to get into a chat room, or changing chat rooms is frustrating and time consuming. When a room is reported full I end up nowhere, at least I used to stay in the original room. Often the Captcha verification fails. Its getting worse, not better…

    Comment by Chris — September 14, 2007 #

  32. Time to take another 2 weeks off while things get fixed, anyone know a god IRC chat client ? Or is it time for me to sign back up for AOL ? (biig ew)

    Comment by Julie — September 14, 2007 #

  33. You people writing long-winded, detailed bug reports are wasting your time. Assuming all these comments are even being read — which is doubtful — Yahoo might get around to fixing ONE bug (and thus creating 4 new ones,) WHEN THEY’RE GOOD AND READY. Which, judging by past performance, could take months.

    Yah00 pushes the limits of unusability.

    Comment by mourning_still — September 14, 2007 #

  34. Why is it when you logout of Yahoo Messenger & then login again later that day or some time later you have deal with maybe 100’s more off line messages that have been sent to asking whether or not you want to add them to your address book etc. There is nothing you can do with this annoying pop-up’s prevailing dominance presiding until you have completed the tasks. Ok, you to your preference section and check the boxes to ignore messages from unwanted people, but it DOES NOT WORK as you still receive them.

    Regarding the Captcha, it is a complete waste of time & effort having to keep clicking on the hyperlink in the room that you wish to chat in. You are logged out after while then you have to re-select a room again, and then, repeat the whole process again. It would be much nicer if you could access you quite quickly and if you do not like it could just select another room and view what’s going in that room - no! You have to keep hitting the Captcha link for you Profile fro variation each time… Do something about this please as may start losing people.

    Comment by Off-line PM's — September 14, 2007 #

  35. Ahhhhhhhh an up grade? Thats starting to become a dirty word around yahoo. Your up grade yesterday between 2-5 has now gone into day two of not being able to enter chat rooms of choice. We should all start calling yahoo and complaining-408-349-3300- is their number. Maybe if enough people call and bug them, they will get the up grades right.

    Comment by Dolly — September 14, 2007 #

  36. I still think a “report as bot” link in the message window, coupled with deleting IDs of confirmed bots will be of use. If the runners have to keep taking time to create new IDs for their bots every few hours, sooner or later they should give up, like a lot of humans are doing now in dealing with the rooms full of bots.

    Comment by Carl27ga — September 14, 2007 #

  37. One other thing I’ve been wishing for a long time, Sarah, is a bigger ignore list. Right now we can only hold 100 names on the list, but with as many trouble makers as there are on Yahoo now, that list needs to be a whole lot bigger. I would say 1000 name list would be a good start. I usually chat in one of the Christian rooms, and either people are being rude, cursing, or fighting. Not only that but then you have those who come in and post in constantly in arabic (why they do that in an english speaking room is beyond me). I would like to put all them on permanent ignore, but with the short list you all have right now for Ignore, I can’t do that. Please, please, make this list longer. Thanks.

    Comment by Jon — September 14, 2007 #

  38. I want the Client the bots are using.

    Comment by mourning_still — September 14, 2007 #

  39. Yahoo Team….i visited the chat rooms and i saw lots of bots obviously these bots are logged in manually using Room Destroy a program made by Vn1. i got hold with that program (the latest version 5.7) and still it can’t join automatically meaning ur catpcha really affects the functionality of this program. But these cyber morons just don’t know when to give up what they are trying to do is discourage yahoo from implementing the captcha by locking rooms even if it means doing it manually my guess is these people are the customer’s of ASR and maybe the porn bot owners themselves. Why i say this? simply becoz due to the recent yahoo patch (update) most ASR toys is working no more specially master of the voice a.k.a voice bots so these creatures are trying to get back at yahoo by filling rooms with bots! hoping by doing so yahoo will give up and bring back the old way of joining rooms then these boys can play with their toys again.

    Yahoo team i know u are far smarter than these bunch of monkeys show this bastards whose the boss why won’t u disconnect ID that is idle in room ID that is not typing?
    also deal with ID’s that are sticking in rooms..i know u can do it. Don’t let this stupid kids beat u to the punch!

    Regards…

    PS. by the way ASR site is…http://asrprogs.com/modules/wfchannel/

    Comment by YM Chatter — September 14, 2007 #

  40. I don’t believe bots are getting into chat. All those names in the chatrooms are people who were in the chat but left, and for some reason their name is still in chat. If they are actually bots, they aren’t saying anything. Also, this problem, with IDs sticking in chatrooms, is causing rooms to be full when in reality those people left long ago. Since you guys are actually trying to solve a lot of issues with chat lately, I am sure you are already trying to fix the problems. I think the captcha feature is great and it’s really working well. Keep up the good work!

    Comment by Mark — September 14, 2007 #

  41. maybe if thay band all of the booter and hacking web sites it would work

    Comment by e.p — September 14, 2007 #

  42. I now get the message that a room is full AFTER I do the Captcha verification, not before. This takes a lot of wasted time. Hope you can get it back where it will tell you the room is full before it ask for Captcha verification.

    thanks keep up the good work

    Comment by ck — September 14, 2007 #

  43. DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE VOICE DOMINATION THINGY,YOU MAY HAVE SUCEEDED PUSHING AWAY THE VOICE SPAMMERS BUT WHAT ABOUT THE VOICE DOMINATION……THEY CAN HOLD AND LOCK THE MIC FOR AGES….THANKS (LOVE CAPTCHA)

    Comment by MANI — September 14, 2007 #

  44. Please fix the captcha verification process for full rooms. If the room is full…say so first, dont have us waste our time typing in the captcha code just to get a room full message and we have to choose another room and start over. It’s just common sense to check if the room is full first. Thx

    Comment by dilbert36 — September 14, 2007 #

  45. well I dont have a Captcha problem
    I have a loose sound after 15 minutes in a room then when I refresh it tells me the audio input couldnt initialize and if I try to go to another room it gives me the yahoo has encounter a problem and needs to shut down.

    Someone Please Help !!!!

    Comment by Julianna — September 14, 2007 #

  46. Yes have to admit the captcha before room full is VERY annoying, please fix - do we have to wait til next Thursday for a fix? It’s gonna be a long week

    Comment by Banger — September 14, 2007 #

  47. Yahooo0000oooo! :d

    Comment by Jaunty Mellifluous — September 14, 2007 #

  48. Seems Yahoo is having trouble getting it right

    It would also be nice to have a feature, something more then just putting such a person on ignore. There’s some nasty people out there who should have their id’s closed at a minimum.

    An example of many.

    Pinky Brain (9/13/2007 9:46:24 PM): I’m currently busy and do not have the time to chat
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:47:01 PM): why are you saying that
    Pinky Brain (9/13/2007 9:47:29 PM): I’m busy.
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:47:34 PM): ok
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:47:43 PM): i am the son of the president of ghana
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:47:56 PM): i just want to learn how to chat
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:48:03 PM): 00
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:48:04 PM): 01
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:48:05 PM): 03
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:48:06 PM): 03
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:48:07 PM): 04
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:48:07 PM): 05
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:48:08 PM): 06
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:48:09 PM): 07
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:48:10 PM): 08
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:48:11 PM): 0
    Pinky Brain (9/13/2007 9:48:14 PM): I’m putting you on ignore.
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:48:22 PM): ok
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:48:29 PM): i dont care
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:48:39 PM): but i am in love with you
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:49:29 PM): i will ,make sure u are killed with african magic
    only4sakawa (9/13/2007 9:50:21 PM): I will definately kill u

    Comment by pinkysbrain68 — September 14, 2007 #

  49. well Yahoo has helped as far as bot’s but now we can’t get in room’s every room is full except the bottom of the list and the counts never change always say’s 50.. and when i turn on and off my webcam it kicks me outta the room. and list goes on as far as BUGS but why bother.. yahoo fixes one thing they make 20 new BUGS

    Comment by Mike97 — September 14, 2007 #

  50. Thanks for the heads up!

    Comment by Dog Clothing — September 14, 2007 #

  51. i hope you do not think yahoo chat is fixed, and i keep getting a not responding on messanger and it closing down on me, and the radio luanch plug in when i push my station or want to play music it just turns into a blank. I have just been having major issues with the new messanger and how about fixing it where you can stop unwanted pm’s from people, but still be able to see people who are not on their friends list in chat. I really miss the old version of yahoo. You really had something there right now it just seems like you are blowing it and flushing it down the toliet.

    Comment by miranda — September 14, 2007 #

  52. the cam bots are getting out of control now, also entering the captcha code and then getting the room full message is really annoying, would be good if they notify us if the room is full before entering the code.

    Comment by syst3m — September 14, 2007 #

  53. its even funny if you close your cam now in room it kicks you into the captcha code sign in, can we say there are yet lots of bugs to work out yet. But with anything new bugs are expected so I hope these coments help some.

    Comment by Ring — September 14, 2007 #

  54. and if u try to join a room and its full, then you are automatically disconnected from the room you were previously in.

    Comment by syst3m — September 14, 2007 #

  55. i went into a room…typed in the code…..and only other name listed was yahoo’s messengers chat buddy :-)
    so i came here looking for an answer as to why……and there was the reason for it……that was easy…….now why not have a full time chat/messenger status board up and running so it can always be this simple?

    just a suggestion.

    Comment by Joe — September 14, 2007 #

  56. Hi So far so good. But as far as people logging in under multiple nics with 1 ip . I think it should be limited to only 1 nic per ip address. reduces the idiots from booting.

    Comment by Theresa — September 14, 2007 #

  57. Yahoo isn’t getting rid of the bots. If they wanted to do more, why not make Captcha case-sensitive. Then it would require actual input. and love the screw-up with Captcha BEFORE checking room status. I’ll echo everyone else’s sentiment… yahoo updates = MORE PROBLEMS.

    Comment by Kentlee — September 14, 2007 #

  58. Dropping old YMSG protocols would have more of an effect on bots and booters than the captcha.

    Comment by Venom — September 14, 2007 #

  59. Ok so Yahoo updated chat and now not only I can not use my favorite rooms because it says they’re full but also I’m getting disconnected after about 15 minutes for no reason. I know you people are working hard to solve this issues but I think it would please everyone if you first present the status of the room (full or available) and then the Captcha Code. Please pretty please ! try to fix this ASAP. Thanks in advance

    Comment by Paramedic — September 14, 2007 #

  60. Applauds Chet!! Regarding your #4 it doesn’t matter if you’re using the new version of messenger or an old one…it does the same thing. I have not been able to use messenger since all this so called “updating” and captcha started. Thank goodness for chat clients!! I could care less about the bots, that’s what iggy is for, and if people don’t iggy cause they’re afraid they might miss something oh well they’re problem!

    Comment by deb — September 14, 2007 #

  61. What’s up with all the cams? Is this the NEW BOT? Can’t enter rooms, but after continual attempts for over 30 minutes my name finally entered the room only to find 38 of the 50 in the room with cams. They don’t type or chat in the room, it seems they’re only in there to take up space.

    Since I continually get disconnected, why don’t the ones with cams, or the bots? The same names with cams have been there since the last total shut-down.

    For a few days it appeared yahoo was back, PLEASE back up one “fix” and let us get back into our rooms!

    Comment by Too Good To Be True — September 14, 2007 #

  62. ok its back 2 not being able 2 get in the rooms again…they all say 50 users and after u do the verification it says ur already in the room and thats for every room..lol damn im good if i can be in that many rooms at once!

    Comment by ya im bored — September 14, 2007 #

  63. everytime i fill out the verification code, i still cant chat in a room..and when i go to another room at the top what do you know it says i got to fill it out and when i try to click on it, it just doesnt go to it..

    Comment by adrianna — September 14, 2007 #

  64. OK the attempt at getting rid of the bots has failed. Logging in to a chatroom smaller than room 10-11 (usually only the #1 city chatrooms have people in them) is now impossible. You are let in to the room, the link for the authentication pops up and you enter the text and then you are told the room is full.

    Obviously people are paying dorks to load bots in by hand and must be running 100’s of bots off of one ip address. The bots sit there doing nothing for days without getting kicked out. If someone… a person or a bot doesn’t type anything for 10 minutes they should be kicked out.

    As of now yahoo chat rooms are useless.

    Back to the drawing board guys!

    Comment by lapercussion — September 14, 2007 #

  65. OK….this is now Sept 14 8:11 EDT…can only get into upper rooms and not in my reg rooms…it sure takes time to get something done..why am i not surprized!!! Wouldnt be so bad if i found normal ppl in upper rooms, instead of the C2C invite crowd..grrrrrrrrrrrrr

    Comment by tempervess — September 14, 2007 #

  66. Ok so limiting the number of user to a single IP address may not work, for some groups. But at least try and limit the number of names a single user can create. Let’s say each user has a single user name and then say 3 sub names for each user.

    I also receive the “room is full” after doing the sign in thing. Pain in the ***. It take 12 clicks for each attempt. I finally gave up. I am sure many other chatters are also. At this rate
    all the chatters will have moved on.

    Again!! Test the updates before you update the servers.

    Comment by kssnuggle — September 14, 2007 #

  67. I now get the message that the room is full only AFTER entering the code on the website, which means that apart from the 6 clicks to get to the code, you also have to enter the code. To find that the chat room is full. I have been entering codes about 30 times and gave up.
    Of course, when you get to enter the code, you are out of the room you left from, so you have to enter a code again to get in there again.
    Not an improvement. If a room is full, just say so before moving a person there.
    People are really getting fed up with this you know, and finding other platforms. Any news on the VISTA version that is scheduled for half a year ago yet?

    Comment by Saskia — September 14, 2007 #

  68. As usual you have messed things up again. I still say the only way to get this thing fixed is if everyone starts cancelling all their premium service accounts and tellin yahoo that is why they are doing it. If they can’t give us what we want lets hit their pocket book. Join me in boycottin anything that you pay yahoo for.

    Comment by devildog1941 — September 14, 2007 #

  69. Well… I don’t know about any improvements. I couldn’t get into any rooms to find out. To repeat some comments/complaints: It is a total waste of time to go through the Captcha (?) verification only to get a Room Full error!

    I give you credit for trying to fix the problems, but it appears that more testing is required before a release is made.

    Comment by Rick — September 14, 2007 #

  70. I just tried 25 rooms and after all the captcha bs it still says all are full. You know this cannot be true. I picked room numbers at random so as to find out. It must be true that you yahoo techs are nothing more than monkeys at keyboards. All they have to do is go back to what was workin allowin us into chatrooms til they get a fix. I still am askin everyone to join me in a boycott of all premium yahoo services.

    Comment by devildog1941 — September 14, 2007 #

  71. blah just keep in mind that yahoo chat is a free service. begger can’t be chooser. Just give them sometime to work out all of the bugs. Do you know anything programs out there without bugs.

    Comment by genghis — September 14, 2007 #

  72. its free so there for u need not complain when things are continusly screwing up? ummm i dont know of any chat room that u actually have 2 pay for!!!

    Comment by ya im bored — September 14, 2007 #

  73. i dont think the update is good. i tried goin to a room today and every room i went to is full.
    that sucks cause you i tried my luck getting into 1 so i have to type captcha code over and over again…

    Comment by kimpz — September 14, 2007 #

  74. I said about 2 months ago, captcha would be useless, upgrade the damn authentication method…

    All bots, clients, booters go…. Why do everything to avoid killing off these things? Why not just do it?….

    Comment by craig — September 14, 2007 #

  75. You guys managed to “fix” chat for a few weeks.. I was impressed.

    Then you guys managed to break chat again in a pretty bad way. Tons of rooms are full again with 50 users… way, way, way beyond normal numbers. They have to be bots or the room counts are messed up again, but worse than before.

    I seriously doubt any of the chat developers know what they’re doing, or even test chat before pushing the code out.

    Comment by bots-b-gone — September 14, 2007 #

  76. Just if I wasn’t clear above, I’m not talking about bots. I’m talking about real people who prey on others (especially women).

    To me, that’s just as bad as the bots. Unfortunately we can’t use the “Ignore anyone not on my Messenger List” feature if we use chat rooms.

    Bummer. =(

    Comment by Venom — September 14, 2007 #

  77. Oh yes, underage teens are still getting into chats. I’ve found them in mostly the music rooms (probably others as well). Faking your age is too easy these days.

    Comment by Venom — September 14, 2007 #

  78. Can’t get in to any rooms. Get captcha after captcha, until it finally crashes and shuts down.
    Back to the drawing room, guys. 11pm eastern, Friday.

    Comment by Sigh... — September 14, 2007 #

  79. Seems like names are getting stuck in the rooms and clogging them up. I don’t know what went wrong with that last “update” but you should fix it quick. Rooms are getting impossible to enter.

    Comment by Ann — September 14, 2007 #

  80. Yeah yeah…the August 17 maintenance proved Yah00 doesn’t know the meaning of “roll back.”

    Comment by mourning_still — September 14, 2007 #

  81. At least when I was automatically bounced to another room, I met some interesting people, and even ran into some of my friends. Now I can’t even do that. Oh well, it will be fixed someday……… maybe

    Comment by wickedwtch — September 14, 2007 #

  82. sorry david but i think they have their hands full trying to get the rooms straightened out…should have left well enough alone but who are we to tell em huh? as far as your vista messy again it’ll be awhile i’m sure! sorry you have vista cuz it sucks!

    Comment by deb — September 14, 2007 #

  83. I agree with the user who said to change the code and eliminate all the problems. There would be no booters, no bots, and chat would work effortlessly and properly. How many different gimmicks and fixes do you have to keep adding to a product before you realize it just don’t work as it is? About version 5 of messenger was the last good one. You could do room visits by following friends on your list, you could join a user in chat easily, the good old user rooms existed so you could find a room of your specific interest and actually find someone with that interest to talk too.

    Chapta was now the greatest latest fix that worked for a couple of weeks. WOW. Report that to the news agencys that something actually worked at least temporarily. So now you do another supposed upgrade and every room ends up as full with the chapta log-in appearing even if the room is already full. So you spend the time typing in all the code to find out that you couldn’t get in the room to start with in the first place. Yes sir, that is one major improvement you rolled out this time.

    Open up java chat again. At least you couldn’t get booted by goofballs in chat rooms. The graphics and look of it was 1960 but at least it worked.

    Comment by Daniel — September 14, 2007 #

  84. Great idea Daniel, we do need java back!

    For now I have a feeling we’re stuck with whatever problem this last update has caused because they’ve turned out the lights and locked the doors for the weekend………bummer.

    One would have expected that once they realized what happened it would have been reversed by now, even though it would take another shut down to clear the rooms, but I guess they’re going to enjoy their weekend first and leave the rooms unavailable to chatters.

    Comment by Too Good To Be True — September 14, 2007 #

  85. Okay…. chat is pretty much 95% broken. Can’t get into any of my usual rooms. Every room is full.

    Broken just in time for the weekend. Thanks. Enjoy your weekend you lazy, bum Yahoo programmers.

    Comment by bots-b-gone — September 14, 2007 #

  86. I have an idea for dealing with abusive, bots etc. How about what like eBay does, have user ratings. Then have an auto ignore that we could set, so let’s say a user with a negative rating would automatically be ignored.

    Just an idea.

    Comment by pinkysbrain68 — September 14, 2007 #

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    Comment by pull_me2002 — September 14, 2007 #

  88. I highly doubt they’d bring back the YCHT protocol, since it means more to maintain.

    Comment by Venom — September 14, 2007 #

  89. I have a sneaking feeling an “abuse” rating would easily be abused by malicious users to get IDs killed.

    Simple answer: Drop the YMSG protos below 15, and change the auth on the servers. No more bots, boots, or clients.

    Comment by Venom — September 14, 2007 #

  90. Well, it was good for a few days there. Regional rooms full of tourists not from the region is about as bad as the rooms being full of bots. 31 rooms saying full in the SF bay area and a couple days ago there were only about 5. What happened?

    Comment by JC — September 14, 2007 #

  91. Yahoo Team ur doing the right thing i just went to ASR site the one who make this voice bots and other yahoo toys and they are on panic mode right now coz their toys won’t login no more. lol

    But there is still a lot to be done… ID’s sticking in rooms which closes 95% of yahoo rooms so think it about time to do some house cleaning just like what u did b4. Then deal with this ID sticking issue and i guess thats it all things will be fine. I hope to see Yahoo be back in business in a day or two…

    Thanks yahoo and keep us updated

    Comment by jamesbond — September 15, 2007 #

  92. HONESTLY GET YOUR CRAP TOGETHER. THIS IS DISGUSTING I TRIED 20 ROOMS ALL WERE FULL THE ONES (2) THAT WERENT FULL WERE BOT LOCKED. YOU GUYS COULD SCREW UP A WET DREAM GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER I AM ENTIRELY SICK OF THIS GARBAGE YOU TRY TO PASS OFF AS “A NEW CHAT EXPERIENCE” YOU GUYS SUCK

    Comment by SICK_OF_IT — September 15, 2007 #

  93. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm well the great yahoo did it again, updated and totally messed things up again you now have 150 rooms that u cant get into and if u do thers no one there. names but not people.sorry but these are suppose to be extronaiary people woking on these problems but it seems they can never get it right.I say start contacting the advertisers maybe they can lean on yahoo to fix things right and now or else.if your people cant seem to fix it fire them all and start over what do you have to loose its totaly screwed anyway i really dont see that it can get much worse……..

    Comment by johnm12666666666666666 — September 15, 2007 #

  94. since your Sept 13, upgrade and cleaning of the bots a new problem in the rooms which is an old one but not addressed is the staying of names in the rooms even if we have left the rooms. Also someone is using multi-logins to add names to rooms to get there old rooms back only it has back fired and no one can get in the rooms. Most of the names in the rooms are of people not there and only a few real bots. I miss being able to get to my room and hope that yahoo can fix the problems of names staying in the rooms. Thank you very much for your time and letting me address issues. Angels

    Comment by angels — September 15, 2007 #

  95. Good Morning;
    I have been using Yahoo for 7 years now and there has been alot of changes over the years. I am not a programmer so I dont know how difficult or easy it is to make changes, but I really feel that the changes that have been made now are bad. Dont get me wrong, i appreciate not seeing trish and her friends, but the bot makers are finding ways around that,,the bots are still there but dont advertise.

    The problem i have is after i do my verification , i get in the room and i cant see half the folks that are in there and i cant see text at all. I thought i was having problems because of running ytunnel, even with this turned off , i am still having the same problems. and for the last week voice has been a big problem, via conferences or voice chat,, i.e.( not authoirzed to join conference or voice server error. at this point even if i cant use voice but could see the text of other chatters, i would be ok could still communicate with them.

    I am not here to b***h,although from reading some of the blog comments, I am sure i will get bashed too for my comments. I just want yahoo to be straight up and tell us will we ever be able to chat as we did before? Are 3rd party chat clients better to use until the fixes are made? If I am missing something here that can make my chat time more enjoyable during these fixes, i am all ears.

    Thanks for letting me vent this morning.Marybeth

    Comment by marybeth_d1957 — September 15, 2007 #

  96. Hmm something is definetly broken, I KNOW I’m typing in the right verification code but it still won’t let me in the chat room

    Comment by misskim — September 15, 2007 #

  97. And it seems all rooms are full now??

    Lol why is it every time Yahoo is upgrading something, something always screws up :p

    Anyway I’m sure they’l fix it soon

    Comment by misskim — September 15, 2007 #

  98. BTW it’s especially some room categories more than others, romance/adult/Role Playing Chat is much more bugged than games/Role Playing games for example

    Comment by misskim — September 15, 2007 #

  99. Ok it seems the rooms are FULL of bots AGAIN!!!!!

    The captcha thing is great but they simply log in the bots manually and let them stay in for weeks.

    I think the best thing you could do would be to reset chat every day at midnight or maybe every 2nd day.

    The bot makers won’t have the energy to manually re log on 2000 bots every day

    Comment by misskim — September 15, 2007 #

  100. Man yahoo’s got this thing totally screwed up now. Moving the captcha to before the checking to see if the room is full means the /knock function no longer works. it puts up a new captcha everytime it knocks, there’s no chance to cancel the knock, and the room becomes inaccessible.

    And since now all the rooms are either full of bots or nicks that haven’t been deleted when users leave, that means none of the rooms are accessible.

    And if i’m lucky enuf to get into a room, my iggy bin has somehow got at least 20 people in it, none of whom have I iggied.

    So far, it worked best before the captcha sequence was moved. I thought, till this last update, that things were getting better. Now it’s worse than ever. Does Yahoo actually TEST any of this crappy code before they role it out? jeeeeeeeeeez!

    Comment by Sigh... — September 15, 2007 #

  101. hay there 10 years yahoo vet. not bots have a way to lock the captha code so they only have to enter it one time. take a look in the yahoo help chat rooms they have room filler bot in like the first 3 rooms (123) now i love helping people that is why i go there. but if yahoo dont fix the prob its going to go right back to the way it was before

    Comment by bob — September 15, 2007 #

  102. Back I go to Paltalk, where they have PROFESSIONAL programmers!

    Time to open up the Yahoo refugee rooms again. Remember: Paltalk.com, no bots, works great. good voice and type and video chat. Free with one small banner ad and a very occasional popup. With no ads, it’s $40 1st yr, $12 annual renew.

    Lotsa rooms, lotsa people. Good interface. Help rooms with real, live help. Rated rooms, meaning the obscenity is limited to rooms where it’s expected, and there’s more to talk about than just body parts and attacking other chatters.

    Come see what a PROFESSIONALLY made and operated chat site looks like.

    Comment by Sigh... — September 15, 2007 #

  103. Sarah
    Looks like you have many passionate users! I suggest using this blog to inform the masses of exactly what is going on with chat rooms. Obviously some issues have arisen when we can’t get into rooms- and rooms are suddenly ‘filled’ with 50 ‘people’ each.

    It does make one wonder how seriously Yahoo takes its’ web services, customer service, and development. Makes me question whether or not I should have Yahoo host my small business site. Makes me question whether or not Yahoo stock is over-valued.

    You have an opportunity to ‘make it right’- but it is slipping away I’m afraid. Best of luck.

    Comment by Steve Jones — September 15, 2007 #

  104. Sarah

    I can’t thank you enough for the update. We know you’re busy in your never-ending quest to improve our chat experience, so I really do appreciate your efforts to keep us in the loop. We Yahoo users are hungry for information.

    Here’s a humbly offered suggestion–the next time you upgrade chat could you possibly test your fix before unleashing it on an unsuspecting public? Your current method of crossing your fingers and sprinkling bat blood around the room prior to installing a fix doesn’t seem to be working.

    Sarah, we would appreciate another update to the blog, and I don’t mean one of your chirpy entries that really doesn’t say anything of substance. What problems does Yahoo acknowlege need to be addressed? When can we expect a resolution to those problems?

    Your last fix transformed a very trying chat experience into an impossible one. Kudos.

    Comment by Loretta — September 15, 2007 #

  105. Hmm, lets try to log into a room shall we? Hmm, lets see, originally chapta checked first to see if the room was full and gave you the room full warning so you didn’t waste your time typing in the “secret code”. Now with this wonderful upgrade chapta lets you go ahead and type in your “secret code” first and then it tells you if the room is full. Yeah, that is one hell of a wonderful upgrade. Just what users want to do is spend their time trying to access rooms that are full in the first place.

    Hmm, then go look at your friends list next, which is usually lit up with wonderful people you chat with on a normal basis. But looking at it now you see that it none of those people are online. Obviously they are like myself and many others who are tired of trying to get into yahoo chat and just don’t log on anymore to see if yahoo has anyone with enough talent to do a chat program correctly.

    Wasn’t Google going to buy Yahoo at one time recently? Perhaps Yahoo should beg for mercy and let the talented folks who bring you all the interesting Google functions buy your company. They could put their talented programmers on the case and probably within one day we would have secure rooms with no bots and features that work.

    What ever happened to the good old days of being able to join a friend on your list without having to ask them why they are? Remember being able to follow a friend and take room tours to go see what other topics were being discussed in other rooms, without having to ask that user over and over what room we were going to tour next? Remember rooms that all the wonderful users or yahoo had created themselves where you knew it was real people and not advertising bots? Remember those rooms were down to one specific topic most times so you knew what the topic was going to be before you even entered the room? Remember these rooms being all closed in bulk by yahoo because of a few bad apples lurking in the shadows? Remember yahoo over-reacting to that issue by closing all the rooms instead of just closing the teen rooms where this was suppose to be a problem? Remember yahoo being the best website on the internet to go to for news, sports, chat etc etc?

    It might be time to sell yahoo. Someone has to be able to steer the ship better then this.

    Comment by Daniel — September 15, 2007 #

  106. I am glad Yahoo was able to rectify the chat room situation for a while. Up until the last day or so- roughly the timeframe of the latest “fix”, eventhough I could not get into my regular room because the lower room numbers were not full, people were able to once again enjoy chat.

    Unfortunately, for the past 2 days, the lower number rooms seems to be locked and if you do manage to get into one, you see almost no one real and names that are stuck in the room of people you know are offline.

    I would also like to briefly address the anti- chat client people. I use a chat client for the simple reason I can turn off my pm’s. As some of you complain about unsolicited pm’s from people saying “hi” or constant ASL questions, I choose not to have my screen constantly interrupted by rude people. On older versions of Yahoo messenger you could set your preferences to ignore anyone not on your messenger list who pm’d you. However, since the 7.0 version (possibly earlier- I can’t recall now), if you set your preferences this way and enter chat, the only people you can see typing or hear on voice are the ones already on your messenger list. At least with a chat client, you are able to control your chat experience. If you choose to speak to someone one time only in a pm, you can without opening your pm’s up to the entire room. If it is someoe you choose to speak to regularly in pm, you can add them to your messenger list.

    If Yahoo would go back to the old way of allowing users to set preferences, perhaps chat clients wouldn’t be as popular.

    Just my $.02 on the subject.

    Comment by sands — September 15, 2007 #

  107. Every room I go in now has a chatter called Yahoo.Chatroom_Moderator and another called Ymlite.ymlite.

    Once the kiddie scripters find a way to enter every room using just one name they will flood yahoo. It will only take 50 names for every single room to be full.

    What is the deal with these 2 names in every room?

    Comment by Zarabyte — September 15, 2007 #

  108. It looks like the “update” didn’t work. Every stinking room shows full. Why don’t you stop trying to make messenger look pretty and fix the problems?

    Comment by Mohay999 — September 15, 2007 #

  109. ok, i have a question….. if we are all having to relog in every 3 hours, why arent the bots? seems to me the re log in thing would keep all the rooms to a minimum of users and they wouls always be accessible……why isnt this working?

    oh and sarah, i dont know what you guys did, ….but it aint working!!!! i see absolutly NO difference

    Comment by So0o0_Confused — September 15, 2007 #

  110. I cannot believe that again all the rooms are full again with bots. Do you people try your updates before pushing them on the rooms or do you just toss them over the fence and see what happens? I wish google would start a chat service, atleast they have a clue of what they are doing!!

    Comment by Trej14 — September 15, 2007 #

  111. Yes i agree with you sands the ignore everyone not on my list feature literally does just that now with every new version of messenger the problems increase yet yahoo have forced people to use the latest one or you can not enter chat this in itself is pathetic no one cares about the plug ins etc they are a complete and utter waste of system resources and make yahoo much more bulky its not what 20mb+? feel sorry for the folks on dial up thats for sure since the updater if you can call it that makes you download the WHOLE thing again lol bots still Spam as normal they just send pms now instead of joining the chat sure some get into chat but with this no pm option you are constantly swamped with pms this alone is a reason why people use clients that is why i do and will continue to until yahoo fix this bug (hell i am not holding my breathe) thats for sure on the other hand chat is now screwed again the CAPTCHA gives a invalid response even though you typed it in correct lol… then if you do get past that you are not entered into the text server and stuck in limbo but hey thats just what its been like for me prob works for most :-) but is seems yahoo has once again wiped its hands of chat they must have thought this would fix it lol boy did they underestimate the issues it has and the determination of spammers who can blaim them its easy money

    Comment by Karl — September 15, 2007 #

  112. ok wit i lied, i do see a difference….. when you have to ‘knock’ to get into a full room, it used to throw up the capcha window when there was an opening to get in…..NOW it just keeps throwing up a capcha window at every knock!!!!! boy, thats REAL improvement

    Comment by So0o0_Confused — September 15, 2007 #

  113. i totally agree with some comments above, one it ttally sucks that you get the gatcha everytimes, 2 totally suck you have taken away the posibility to jump for m one room to other /join chatroom:, third the botss oovercame such security yet, 4 everyone is leaving yahoo because that, i always had said that yahoo is the best messenger and everybody copies yahoo technologies but darn your not doing a great job lately rooms are almost empty (colombia rooms) and it didnt get easily to the rooms and i cant choose the number of the room , pleasee fix it soon

    Comment by oscar s. — September 15, 2007 #

  114. 150 rooms per category and its really amazing that these rooms are full of real people..long live yahoo..lol..

    I think you will find 90.99% are stuck ids lmao …. and a LOT are now swamped with spam

    Comment by Karl — September 15, 2007 #

  115. KARL

    I’m still on dial up thru no choice of my won either. ( just not avail in my area ) theres no way i will dnload yahoo messenger over and over . thats just another reason i LOVE my Elite ;-)

    Comment by So0o0_Confused — September 15, 2007 #

  116. oscar s

    i don’t see how everyone copies yahoo…. if anything they copy other peoples innovations such as pms in the email? from google talk… voip from google talk much more email space from google talk Lmao trhe list is endless google will one day have chat rooms and i would put money on them being 1000x the chat rooms yahoos are

    Comment by Karl — September 15, 2007 #

  117. So0o0_Confused

    yea i used to be on dial up and 20mb is a BIG download why on earth can they not have a light version of yahoo, icq and aim has it hell even msn has it. They can keep there huge overbearing ads i and a lot wont care we just want to chat if we wanted launch cast etc we are capable of opening a web browser and going there ourselves!

    Comment by Karl — September 15, 2007 #

  118. Like i said before…….. here’s an idea……. eliminate the capcha, let the bots back in and open the room to unlimited users, my client gives me ‘auto ignore’ on bots, and unlimited ignores, i’ll be happy as LONG as i can get back into help room one

    Comment by So0o0_Confused — September 15, 2007 #

  119. Great idea confused, but Yahoo will not do that because they will not be able to use the bot excuse to cover up their inability to properly program and maintain thier software.

    Comment by End is near — September 15, 2007 #

  120. For 9 years now I have watched Yahoo go downhill because they continuously make untested “upgrades” and make it more difficult for chatters to have an enjoyable chat time on line. SARAH wake the hell up and pay attention to what we are all telling you here!! Your upgrades are the pits and are no good. Take it back to the way it was years ago where you didn’t have to worry about stupid upgrades and bots were easy to iggy and we could all see each others text and get voice!! FFS what moron did Yahoo hire to screw it up again? No offense, but probably some dumbazz towel head who swore up and down he knew what he was doing. If I could, I’d turn my son lose on Yahoo and he’d have it fixed in no time! I’ve not seen a screw up like this in any chat! OMG I wonder why people are leaving Yahoo and seeking other forms of chat? Hmmmmmmm…could it be cause Yahoo has dumbazz fckups working for them that have no clue wtf they’re doing?!! *grins* Can yas tell I’m a bit pissed now? *LOL*

    Comment by deb — September 15, 2007 #

  121. Clock is ticking Sarah. From what I have seen, the rooms have been screwed up since the update..Which was the 13th and here it is the 15th and no response from yahoo. I guess custromer service isn’t their strong point.

    Comment by End is near — September 15, 2007 #

  122. Man, what kind of upgrade was this????? Can’t even get into a room now because they are all full of bots. When people sign out their id is left in the room and now all the rooms are maxed and you can’t even get in. For crying out loud at least go back to the way it was before this upgrade or get it figured out once and for all….

    Comment by This Blows — September 15, 2007 #

  123. No one from yahoo is going to read any of this until Monday at the earliest. Everyone should save their questions and keystrokes and just chalk Yahoo up as closed for the weekend. I’m assuming chat isn’t generating much revenue for them anymore since they really make a quarter hearted (at best) effort to maintain it. I’d rather have had it the way it was before they touched anything than the way it is now.

    Not that you care Yahoo, but no one is impressed.

    Comment by Useless — September 15, 2007 #

  124. So0o0_Confused wrote…

    “Like i said before…….. here’s an idea……. eliminate the capcha, let the bots back in and open the room to unlimited users, my client gives me ‘auto ignore’ on bots, and unlimited ignores, i’ll be happy as LONG as i can get back into help room one

    Comment by So0o0_Confused ”

    Yeah thats what u scumbags are waiting right? to let ur porn bots back in? (automatically) and play with ur voice toys again! screw u! right now u monkeys locks yahoo room even if it mean ul goin to do it manually just to make yahoo give up its captcha system. I have a news for yah u worm! yahoo is a lot smarter than u! they will fix the server and everything will be just fine! so forget about ur porn bot business forget about ur yahoo toys just go get a gun and blow ur brainless brain up!!!! this world has no use of a creature like u!

    Comment by Dr. Evil — September 15, 2007 #

  125. Yeah thats what u scumbags are waiting right? to let ur porn bots back in? (automatically) and play with ur voice toys again! screw u! right now u monkeys locks yahoo room even if it mean ul goin to do it manually just to make yahoo give up its captcha system. I have a news for yah u worm! yahoo is a lot smarter than u! they will fix the server and everything will be just fine! so forget about ur porn bot business forget about ur yahoo toys just go get a gun and blow ur brainless brain up!!!! this world has no use of a creature like u!

    Comment by Dr. Evil — September 15, 2007

    Ladies and gentlement, I give you one of the super inteligent yahoo programmers..

    Comment by End is near — September 15, 2007 #

  126. I personally thought that Yahoo! was supposed to “Better Our Experience” by taking down YCHT, Chat2, and User Rooms. I personally believe all Yahoo! has done iis made their chat system worse! Nothing ever works, says rooms are full when there’s only 10 people in there, and the bots were back into chat 8 hours after Captcha was launched. It seems to me that Yahoo! is turning into the next Microsoft, in other words..you are starting to offer a horrible service with loads of bugs and exploits. The user rooms you took away were good for hiding from booters, bots, and just plain out idiots! bring the user rooms back, I think that would improve Yahoo! alot. I personally think that the captcha needs to be taken down, cause it hardly works anyways..lol

    Comment by Unhappy Chat User — September 15, 2007 #

  127. Yahoo is running perfectly. If you have the right software like ymlite then you will have no problems at all.

    Comment by Craig — September 15, 2007 #

  128. The bots are back in again..looks like they found a way past the Captcha? From what I have seen in past 3 days a lot of users are switching to Eyeball Chat and PalTalk..don’t blame them..at least they work.

    keep

    Comment by free_downloader (keep) — September 15, 2007 #

  129. While unlike the majority of you i appreciate the fact that yahoo has made steps to reduce Spam what i never thought they would do sure its a good concept and has its flaws but it has worked chat rooms have a lot less Spam now who can argue with that?. I see people complaining o it does not work etc no one says thanks for trying i also have issues with the CAPTCHA it works 2/10 times at best then once you get into chat you are still not verified to enter the room yes highly annoying i know but the most anoying thing i myself personally find is the ability to turn pms off has been stopped well it can be done but with messenger it ignores everyone else i do not know what clown thought of this idea or even if its a bug.. that is prob the case Y! messenger has always had more bugs than a can of raid can handle i find that amusing since a multi million dollar company has so little employees to maintain its chat system it is in steep decline the CAPTCHA clearly does its job but causes more issues than before in my opinion but then again its new so another 8 years from now they will fix it lmao the real issue at the moment is the room list count! every room is full nearly. but in reality 99% are ids stuck and false room counts when that issue is fixed it should run a lot smoother but the ids being stuck in rooms has ALWAYS happened ever since i started using yahoo at least i cant see it being fixed in the near future your complaints fall on deaf ears here folks yahoo lined themselves up for a public backlash when they made this blog i wonder if they knew how unhappy everyone was with there service i bet Sarahs little fingers hurt by the end of the day deleting comments (although in reality comments could prob be removed automatically or some type of filter etc.) still an amusing thought lol but yea a lot of babble just to say fix the room listing issue so we can get in chat geez!

    Comment by Karl — September 15, 2007 #

  130. people who want to let bots in again should just go and die please ok..

    The current system works great, it’s just temporarily bugged, the only thing that would be awesome would be if Yahoo restarted chat once a day or once every 2nd day at midnight. That would mean everyone has to re-login their bots again, and that isn’t funny when youhave to login 2000 bots every day or more.

    Comment by misskim — September 15, 2007 #

  131. misskim
    lol the CAPTCHA has long been broken there is many many many ways around it such as word scanners etc this is all done automatically and would not phase the average spammer they make more money than you and i in a week than we do in months… lol

    Comment by Karl — September 15, 2007 #

  132. quick tip 4 those chatters that r going through withdrawl…sign on2 messenger and click on canada not the states..there is tons of local rooms that u can get in2 that have actual people chatting!

    Comment by ya im bored — September 15, 2007 #

  133. Ok so finally most of the old rooms are open.
    FINALLY…. i can compleatly live with having to put the code in everytime i want to get to chat…. but this rooms roll over thing…. it’s nuts!!!! alot of us had friends we would hang with in certain rooms and have a good time…. Now you have no choice what room you get into and what kind of idoits are in there. I don’t see what the big problem is with opening X amount of rooms …..and giving chatters the choice of going to the room they would like. But then again that would be freedom in chatting and it seems like that is something yahoo is taking away !!!!!!
    In all honstly i wish the chat rooms would just go back to the way it was …..bots and all !!!!
    At least then we had choices of what room we wanted to pick to chat in….not the next aviliable room on the list….. come on yahoo lets concentrate on one thing at a time…. like fixing the chat rooms …then moving on to other ideas….. looks as tho someone has too many irons in the fire.

    Comment by rebel — September 15, 2007 #

  134. I agree with unhappy…chatting here seems to work just fine and there are no bots. Get yer chat on!!!

    Comment by Waaaahhhh — September 15, 2007 #

  135. you GO deb!!! i couldnt have said it better myself ;-)

    Comment by So0o0_Confused — September 15, 2007 #

  136. This is not a ‘fix’ but it is a workaround for those who want to chat with their friends.

    Change your status message to display the room you are in. As your friends log in, they can see what room you are in and join you.

    Happy Chatting

    Comment by RedefinedVariable — September 15, 2007 #

  137. HOW TO GET INTO THE ROOMS ……….. You can access the rooms easily but it will take a little bit of work to get the one you want. For example, if you want to get into “Florida 2″ you need to click on the “Florida” group name and not try the individual room. This will log you into the lowest numbered Florida room that has an opening. Surprisingly you may find some people you know for they are using the same way to access the rooms. You can then do the same step again to try to access a lower number room, for each time you try it will move you to the next available room. Eventually, you will get to the room you want. I did this for rooms I frequent and after about 10 tries I made it all the way to room one. It just takes luck and some timing, but the rooms are open.

    Good Luck.

    Comment by Daniel — September 15, 2007 #

  138. Why does everyone think if you use a third party client you are automatically booting? Why would they think because you understand the packet overload…you boot? Why can’t people grasp, that if you understand the way yahoo is exploited and choose to use a third party to protect from yahoo’s exploits, you are automatically booting? The people I knew who booted, used a third party to log into chat and logged their bots in via messenger , so the booting actually happens through messenger. Doesn’t it make sense that in order to protect yourself from something you need to understand the process first? Not every person logged into a third party chat client is booting, so please stop with the generalized comments that all third party chat clients are booters, spammers or, porn bot makers. Most people who do yahoo porn simply point the camera down and don’t bother logging in as a porn bot.

    Comment by comfortably_yum — September 15, 2007 #

  139. Way to go Deb…u sound a little ticked off and I can’t blame ya….things are somewhat better than b4 but how come some rooms say full when u know they are not? What is this Yahoo.Chat_Moderator in most rooms? I know it can’t really be someone from Yahoo. Wonder what chat they use to find or talk to their friends..hmmmmmm? And of course we still have room fillers….their life must be really boring to have to come into Chat to get their jollies….what a sad life they must lead….but all I can do is LAUGH at them….hahaha…

    Comment by skeeter — September 15, 2007 #

  140. Thanks for the tip Daniel. It worked!

    Comment by Waaaahhhh — September 15, 2007 #

  141. Seems most the rooms are ghosting chatters and are filling up quick so most of the lower rooms are now full, oh well back to conferences for the time being.

    Comment by Banger — September 15, 2007 #

  142. Right now, Saturday 9/15/2007 1:55pm Pacific Time, there are currently 21 “Seattle” chat rooms, and the first twenty are maxed out at 50 users (I’m sure that 99% or more of those users must be bots). So obviously the bot problem is not fixed at all by the CAPTCHA you’ve implemented. Please come up with a more difficult CAPTCHA or some other solution.

    I tried entering Seattle:1, entered the CAPTCHA, and only THEN received the “room is full” error dialog. It’s annoying to have to type in the CAPTCHA before finding out the room is full anyway, so please fix that.

    So I just joined Seattle:21, because the room list said it had 14 users. But the room actually only contains 10 users. So obviously the room list counts are wrong. Please fix that.

    Two of the users in Seattle:21 had icons indicating their webcams were turned on. But when I chose “View Webcam” on either one, I got an error dialog saying the user’s webcam was not available. So obviously the webcam user icons do not update correctly to reflect reality. Please fix that.

    I just have to ask: don’t you Yahoo employees know how to run a software development project? Don’t you track bugs in a bug database so they get prioritized and worked on rather than lost or ignored? Don’t you perform even the most basic regression testing on your code changed before you make the code go live? Don’t you do any threat modeling or analysis on your architecture to identify and spot obvious vulnerabilities and points of attack before you ship your code?

    In short, don’t you CARE at all? If not, why not? If you don’t believe that Yahoo Chat is a worthwhile business to be in, then just kill it off already. That would be better than the half-assed job you’ve been doing with it for the last 6 years or so.

    Comment by hotgeek30m — September 15, 2007 #

  143. If these are improvements then please go back to the way it was, The bots were a pest before but they could always be put on ignore, and when you left a chat room your name did not get stuck.
    I think you fixed something that wasnt broke…
    Yahoo has always had it in its control to ban users, so why havent they actively banned the bots?
    If it was the intention of yahoo to discourage people using chat, they have definitely succeeded.
    I never thought I would see a company sabotage its own system…. good one yahoo!!!

    Comment by andrew — September 15, 2007 #

  144. i wish you could return the old system of chatting,everytime i enter chat room it writtens,to help prevent spam and bots from distrupting your yahoo chat experience please click here to verify account (this link will open a new web browser window>no matter how i click the captchat it doesnt work and its irritating for me since i just started using a computer i wish you could help people like me to make it easier or return the way we used before..thanks

    Comment by karube ma cecilia — September 15, 2007 #

  145. Another bug: when you ignore a user who is “voice spamming” the room by permanently enabling their mic and blasting music over it or something, their IMs get ignored but their voice/mic keeps playing (does not get ignored like it should). Please fix this too.

    Comment by hotgeek30m — September 15, 2007 #

  146. Um, I’m sure u are already aware that things are going to hell in a handbasket again. I was excited with the CAPTCHA code and thought the bot issues would be fixed.. But as already posted on this thread there seems to be GHOST bots in the chat rooms filling up the rooms to capacity and now none of the regs can enter THEIR rooms!! It’s very frustrating and I’m hoping this issue will be resolved very SOON and not take nearly 2 wks to fix like last month.

    Comment by LaLa — September 15, 2007 #

  147. First of all — Thank you Yahoo for trying — Thank you Sarah for updating — please keep the info flowing — ignorance is not bliss.

    I realize everyone is cranky about these problems ongoing for months since January ‘07 at least. But for two weeks we’ve had mostly bot free chat, along with fast easy access, and I, for one am grateful for that. It has been, for a brief time, much like the ease I remember from 2003 when bots were only an occasional nuisance.

    Currently there seems to be some sort of server glitch that causes names to not be released from lower numbered rooms and a rollover to higher numbers. So yet again we are forced to conference with friends privately and not meet in our usual hangout rooms. This may be okay for first time users, but for all the jaded room regs, half the fun of chat is new people being introduced to old.

    I’d like to agree with another poster, that if Yahoo could shut down chat once a day, it would at least give us all a few hours daily to meet in our regular rooms until they fill back up again. We are all used to being booted every few hours from chat anyway - so this added inconvenience would not be any worse than what we are accustomed to.

    I would greatly appreciate some plain talk from Yahoo as to progress daily. I would also appreciate it if folks would cool the rhetoric a bit in their complaints and realize that a free service cannot independently respond to all of us. A once daily update from Ms. Bacon however, would do a lot to restore our patience and confidence.

    We all love Yahoo chat — so please keep trying folks — thank you for what you’ve done — but as repeated efforts fail week after week we are all becoming more than a tad disillusioned.

    Good luck!

    Dex

    Comment by Dexter — September 15, 2007 #

  148. i always go to room 1 that where all the reg used to before yahoo mess with thier servers now at first the captcha work now the only room i can go to is room 21 and there the people from the ME or bots!! why the first few room don’t work???

    Comment by RICHIE — September 15, 2007 #

  149. 3rd day in a row that after going through the security stuff which I think is OK, it get “Room Is Full” error. I must have tried 10 rooms each day to no avail. Nice security system ~ it seems to keep EVERYONE out! Maybe AOL isn’t so bad after all.

    Comment by Rob — September 15, 2007 #

  150. Dex

    It is free to us, but we pay by being subjected to all the ads. I would gladly pay for a service if I did not have to put up with sub-par service and it was ad free (example: the old AOL). And as far as hour rhetoric, we all just want someone from yahoo yo listen to us and what we want. But then again what do we know, we are only the consumer, the end user and with out us..Yahoo wouldn’t make a dime off advertising.

    Comment by End is near — September 15, 2007 #

  151. DEX…Yes, we realize that Yahoo is doing what they can do. Regardless of the “FREE” service that Yahoo provides us. Don’t forget this is a million dollar company that cannot afford these “TECHNICAL PROBLEMS” that has been going on for the past several months.WE the consumers and regular chatters of YAHOO have just as much right to voice our dissatisfaction as you do defending their sub par performance in fixing the chat rooms. OUR rhetoric is justified and EVERYONE is entitled to their own PERSONAL opinion. With all the technical support that YAHOO is suppose to have one can’t help but wonder what is the PREREQUISITE to get a job there at YAHOO and wonders what kinda Yokels is running the company.. Sorry Yahoo.. But it’s the truth.

    Comment by Rhetoric Rant — September 15, 2007 #

  152. heyyyyyy unhappy, at least i found u here…lol sent yahell a e mail and they replied back…that it was either my server or spyware in my puter…lol come on yahoo, get it in gear, this is pitiful.

    Comment by yafooled — September 15, 2007 #

  153. wow yafooled is good to see youuuuuuuuuuu since we cant get into chat.. good to see you here.. i am sure this is” off topic” and not allowed here.. but since chat is down, give me a holler sometimes here lol

    Comment by unhappy — September 15, 2007 #

  154. All the people who have posted with an I.T. background should know the type of task Yahoo is faced with the limited staff and scale of their network. Yahoo in an earlier blog posted that they are hiring for their Messenger team , so it’s obvious they are short handed. For all who want to criticize, try doing some research on the matter, use this blog to help them as thats the only way to help them fix it. Don’t just complain about it. I like being able to finally get into chat and talk to online friends from around the world about technology and appreciate the efforts that are being made. If you are so addicted to chat as to where it becomes personal then maybe you should seek counseling or pursue a real world social life.

    http://www.geocities.com/bad_bad_sloar

    Comment by Sloar — September 15, 2007 #

  155. Don’t you know it takes 3.1 jigawatts to get you into a room “unhappy”..You are prolly getting maybe getting 2 or 2.5…Try and hard boot your pc while holding down the ctrl-tab-semicolon-capslock-backspace keys with your left hand while patting your belly with your right. This should get you the 3.1 needed to get into chat.

    Comment by End is near — September 15, 2007 #

  156. heyyyyyyyyyyy it worked end lmao thanks

    Comment by unhappy — September 15, 2007 #

  157. end….I sent my resume to that email addy only to get captcha Does it never end?? lmaoooooo

    Comment by deb — September 15, 2007 #

  158. just had a disturbing thought…do the ME’ers know of this blog would hate to see them asking ASL in here and to IM them

    Comment by tempervess — September 15, 2007 #

  159. Were you wearing your homemade tin-foil hat when you sent the resmue? Maybe we all should apply, we can carpool in my company car…we should be able to get 12 programmers in my mini-cooper

    Comment by End is near — September 15, 2007 #

  160. Are you aware that users who are disconnected from their internet while in chat rooms are having their names permanently stuck in the rooms? There are approximately 16 stuck in Depression Support:1 right now. Thought I would give you a heads up.

    Comment by Teflon — September 15, 2007 #

  161. Yahoo need to do one of two things.

    Put some real resources and fix the chats properly. Apart from the verification farse there are a 100 and 1 other bugs to fix and tweaks to make. And get some moderators in to kick out the perverts.

    Or get rid of chat for good. Shoot it in the head like a race horse with a broken leg.

    It is truly amazing that a company such as Yahoo are not able to develop and manage a product properly.

    Comment by Geekster — September 15, 2007 #

  162. Sloar, are you suggesting that Yahoo is a company with limited resources?

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Comment by Geekster — September 15, 2007 #

  163. I’ve been trying since last night to get into any chat room in romance..but to no avail, have I been able to get in?…it says chat error and that room is full and to try another one…I’ve tryed so many till I’m blue in the face?…whats the problem now?…I’ve also upgraded my messenger to 8.1….and still having problems…this totally gives me a headache to no end…makes ya wanna leave chat altogether…wonder why I even try anymore…not worth my time and the headaches…

    Comment by frustrated again!!!!! — September 15, 2007 #

  164. red noises?

    Comment by dont wanna say — September 15, 2007 #

  165. The rooms are full of dead IDs. They are not bots.
    If someone just shuts down without logging out their ID remains forever.

    Many of the ( excuse the term ) “squiggle writers” dont know enough english to understand the proper way to log out of chat.

    The result is a room full of ghosts.

    Two of the ghosts are mine because my IP belched and I got dumped ofline for a few min. I still cant get rid of them even though they are mine and I have the password because the room is full and I cant even log into the system.

    Comment by Witchgrl — September 15, 2007 #

  166. I still say we have to capability to make yahoo pay some attention to us. Just start cancelling all your premium yahoo services and give chat problems as reason for cancelling. The only way to ever get attention is to hit the pocketbook.

    Comment by devildog1941 — September 15, 2007 #

  167. I am really amazed that yahoo hasn’t added captcha to this blog to make it harder to post here.

    Comment by devildog1941 — September 15, 2007 #

  168. Premium accounts and stop using their search engine and email. Look at the money google makes off advertising and they listen to their users. I cannot believe that anyone is not monitoring the chat server, hell my work server has 24 monitoring service…

    Comment by End is near — September 15, 2007 #

  169. callin yahoo telling them chat is broke and they need to pay them overtime to come out on weekend to fix it???

    Comment by totally bored now — September 15, 2007 #

  170. oh another Big complaint….Why do I have to keep my PM’s open to see everyone in the room?…I’m so sick of this crap..all it does it send me all the PERVERTS, middle east , ASL Crap…and men who are here looking for phone sex or someone to CYBER…Can’t ya’ll get your Chit together…hell….my 8yrs granddaughter could do a better job then your so called intelligent employees…NOT….OH and Hello out there out you wonderful people who feel as I do….hehe!!!

    Comment by frustrated again!!!!! — September 15, 2007 #

  171. hmmm zero bids on ebay for the purchase of Yahoo!! Wonder why!! lmaoooooo

    Comment by deb — September 15, 2007 #

  172. I’ve been able to get into rooms without any problems. Someone mentioned it earlier in these comments - enter by going into the top level lobby iof a category. Afte doing captcha, It will put you into the next available room in that topic.

    Comment by Bill P. — September 15, 2007 #

  173. well…well..well….I tryed once again to get in chat…but to no Avail…still the same ole crap…room is full….try another…still the same, doesn’t matter what room you try, they’re all FULL….aint this da chits?….Yahoo needs to go back to the old way of chatting…Chat 2.0 or Java…at least they worked…LMAO….Hello out there all ya wonderful people..lets all Complain…yeah..lets…hehe

    Comment by frustrated again!!!!! — September 15, 2007 #

  174. I am really amazed that yahoo hasn’t added captcha to this blog to make it harder to post here.

    Comment by devildog1941 — September 15, 2007 #

    devildog1941, PUHLEASE don’t give them any bright ideas.

    Funny, the first thing I do when downloading messenger to any new box is to remove the auto updater. I don’t want to update some buggy crap that isn’t going to work, so I wait and let me friends download updates then watch them complain. Besides, if I wanted a nag box yelling at me to update, I’d marry, have an affair and upgrade the proper way. **blankstare**

    Comment by comfortably_yum — September 15, 2007 #

  175. Frustrated again, I’m with you. I can deal with just about anything with yahoo (when it’s working), but not being able to turn off the ims in a chat room is annoying. I am tired of being buzzed, asl, i love you by ME men, only to be told they are going to kill me if i don’t answer them. (Killing me would be better than the other things they say they want to do to me) Sure, I am smart enough to put them on ignore and deal with the next one that comes along. But we shouldn’t have to do this, we should be able to set the ignore option and still chat in the room with people who are not on our friends list. I gave up going to Yahoo for help as I got tired of the oh so helpful generated email response of putting them on ignore. Duh!!!!

    Comment by bella — September