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Chat update (sort of)

August 9, 2007 on 12:35 pm | In News | 539 Comments

Hi everyone,

Just a quick update to let you know that we’re getting closer to pushing out some fixes for the chat rooms. We’re continuing to work on improvements around performance and security. We really appreciate your patience as we get things ready. We’ll keep you posted here on the blog.

Thanks,

Sarah Bacon
Product Manager

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  1. well thats good that we are getting “some” updates…

    Comment by Chris — August 9, 2007 #

  2. Thank you Sarah, your update is very much appreciated.

    Comment by Tommy — August 9, 2007 #

  3. Please Sarah can you reply to me?

    Will the yahoo chat be ever restored in the european versions of yahoo messenger? (e.g. the italian version)

    Please do not delete this message…

    Thanks for the update

    Comment by Winstar — August 9, 2007 #

  4. Why is so difficult to access Yahoo Chat Older & Wiser room? For the past month or so !

    I understand such inability when rooms are FULL but otherwise? Cheesh!

    Comment by Joseph Foulk — August 9, 2007 #

  5. I hear that Yahoo IM is shutting down on August 17 because Yahoo no longer wants to provide free IM service. Is this true?

    Comment by Greg — August 9, 2007 #

  6. Thanks for another update. Keep em comin’!!!

    @Greg – the answer is no. Do you think they’d make an update stating they are still working on things if they only planned to shut it down in a week?

    Comment by Parry Hotter — August 9, 2007 #

  7. yahoo messenger rocks!!!

    Comment by dickalicker — August 9, 2007 #

  8. V, I share your pain about future versions of Messenger.

    Comment by Kiel — August 9, 2007 #

  9. yahoo chat has become totally unusable!!
    lags, rooms not working, disconects are to the point that I cannot use them anymore.
    i hope these issues are fixed soon

    Comment by stevengrant98 — August 9, 2007 #

  10. One has to wonder how close is that “closer”.

    Just a quick word please make sure people can’t use multiple chat ids in ATLEAST the SAME CHATROOM from SAME IP ADDRESS as this flaw alone causes so much trouble since booters lock the chatrooms and then keep them locked for days without logging out the bots. Please put a limit on the number of connections yahoo will allow to its chat servers from the same IP address. If you can make the servers allow just 2 or 3 connections at max to itself we’d be back in the good ol’ days when YMSG had such restrictions and chatrooms would be much more cleaner and FREE from BOOTERS.

    Comment by Rick — August 9, 2007 #

  11. That’s funny so many people have claimed problems with booters. I’ve gotten booted from chat alot of times but I couldn’t say it was a person in the chat room. Maybe it was just the software?

    It would really be nice if the advertisers could get a possible fine for swamping the rooms with their “bots” and irritating people. Is there any way Yahoo! could do that?

    Anyway, I look forward to the updates.

    Comment by JC — August 9, 2007 #

  12. Thanks for the “sort of” update. At least this shows that Yahoo finally noticed that keeping the users updated is important.

    Comment by Gary — August 9, 2007 #

  13. Hi,

    Please just keep us more up to date on things like the new chat rooms, messenger for Vista & MAC. I would like to know the stages that these things are at and whats coming next and when will things come out. At the moment I am getting a better response from a brick wall.

    Thanks, Brandon

    Comment by Zooster — August 9, 2007 #

  14. Funny with all the lagging and swipped text, the bots still manage to post their ads?!

    Yahoo, get your act together, in all the 9 years I’ve used your service, this has been the worst its ever been, I hope your other services dont get this bad as I’ll have to find replacements for hosting and other services that you provide.

    Comment by Joe Bloggs — August 9, 2007 #

  15. [...] Yahoo! Messenger a ajuns la versiunea 8.1.0.413 cu un mic update la chat-room. [...]

    Pingback by BOGDAN’s BLOG - YM + Collection » Some updates — August 10, 2007 #

  16. yep, spams and bots is a big problem. Keep a check on them. right now these rooms are pretty unusable.

    Comment by White Eagle — August 10, 2007 #

  17. *-:) How about a gender checker built in to yahoo !

    Comment by quatschkoph — August 10, 2007 #

  18. The updates do so much to reassure folks. I am in the chatrooms almost nightly.
    The information gives many ammunition to stop rumors and refer folks to this page for the real scoop.
    Please consider a page for status of service. It would go a long way to soothing fears and taking the wind out of the sails of some of the more vocal idiots that scare folks.

    Comment by Donna — August 10, 2007 #

  19. One word. PalTalk.

    Comment by Laura Schilling — August 10, 2007 #

  20. Thanks for the update Sarah. Even though it’s brief, it lets us users know you’re not blowing us off. I’m going to push the current stability of chat aside for now, although I will agree that as it currently stands Yahoo! Chat is pretty unusable.

    Personally, I think the best way to deal with the chat spam is to identify the largest groups of spammers and pressing them with legal action to shut them down. After that, additional measures such as a CAPTCHA (letter verification image) and other restrictions can be imposed to help eliminate what’s left.

    As for the “booting”, it would require a few changes to the YMSG protocol and Yahoo Messenger, but eliminating a good number of it is definitely possible. As it stands right now, if you get flooded with enough data the YMSG servers will disconnect you. If it wasn’t for that, many of the boot programs out their would lose their effectiveness. Also further restrictions on how many messages/invites can be sent with a certain time frame could help identify the boot bots and disconnect them rather than the victim. Another good idea is enforcing the ignore list and ‘ignore anyone not on my list’ features server side rather than client side (Yahoo! Messenger).

    This is just my own view on the chat problems, though I (and I’m sure others) think that these are good idea that should be done.

    Comment by Infinite Luta — August 10, 2007 #

  21. I just downloaded PalTalk and was amazed at the clarity of the VC. The rooms did fine, and there were not so many bots. While I will always like the people I chat with in Yahoo better, I may have to go paltalk.. this “update” is taking way too long.

    Comment by Goddess_Goldberry — August 10, 2007 #

  22. what about the 18 seconds mic time limit???? when is that going to be increased again?

    Comment by miranda — August 10, 2007 #

  23. Paltalk is a pay chat. If you do not pay, you can view webcam only for 10 seconds, that is ridicolous

    Comment by Winstar — August 10, 2007 #

  24. LOL don’t listen to this tripe they are doing this to stop the vast amounts of complaints how gullible are you people

    Comment by Karl — August 10, 2007 #

  25. And, i do not understand the ones that want the mic time limit to be increased. I think it has been one of the best thing yahoo ever did!

    Comment by Winstar — August 10, 2007 #

  26. And, i do not understand the ones that want the mic time limit to be increased. I think it has been one of the best thing yahoo ever did!

    Amen to that! the yahoo time stamp on voice was the best thing yahoo has implemented in a long time the only people who disagree are idiots who lock the mic for HOURS and wreck everyones chat experience or people who like to have a y! power trip and lock the mic.

    Comment by Karl — August 10, 2007 #

  27. I think the best thing yahoo could do is what i have mentioned before credit card verification on yahoo ids when you make them o some people will say i do not have a credit card you must have a bank/debit card who doesn’t own a bank account you need it for everything!. This would in turn eliminate mass id making if it was for example 11 ids per card number NO ONE needs more than one id but im thinking of family’s using yahoo etc.. it would also help to eliminate kids for chat yahoo is NOT a place for kids of course you do not need to be charged for it the number could be verified instantly without a charge yahoo already have credit card verification in there
    change birth date page (in account info) implement this into making ids and sort the issues out once and for all no more bots/spam well not as much. they could do many things such as deactivate ALL yahoo illegals but then again its yahell they do not care this is more apparent now than ever keep up the empty promises sarah i for one do not belive that BS

    Comment by Karl — August 10, 2007 #

  28. Very informative update….said with a straight face

    Comment by Pj — August 10, 2007 #

  29. Well that sure is a sorta update kinda like not telling us anything much . I don’t understand why yahoo worked really well on 8-9-07 and now its back to nothin again. Are they just flippin switches there to see which one will work or what ??
    I mean there is thousands of people on here every night wanting to have a good time.
    But when yahoo is runnin good then you have the idiots botting up the room thinking they are bad boys when in fact they are idiots. if yahoo is recording IP’s why havent they done something to these people bottin up the room and bootin people off??
    Is this in their updateing also ??

    And one update in what like a month is doin a good job at tell the chatters ? c’mon surely they can take the time to post something more than once in a months time .

    But then again what do you get for nothing ?

    Comment by Judy Duwe — August 10, 2007 #

  30. Sarah, I have sent so many E-Mails to Yahoo and they keep telling me that there is nothing wrong with Yahoo Messenger,even though there are so many people complaining about not being able to access Yahoo Messenger. I just sent some attachments of others with the same problem. It has not worked for me in at least four days. They keep telling me to do the same thing over and over again. I have already done that. Now you are saying there are problems with Yahoo Messenger. I told them that there is problems with the Servers and they keep saying No.

    Comment by Mary Ann — August 10, 2007 #

  31. Hmmm glad you are working hard to fix the chat rooms…things have gotten worse today. I cant seem to get into any chat rooms now. Keep up the good work (sarcasm).

    You guys keep making it worse instead of making it better. With all this fumbling around it leads us to think either yahoo management is incompitent or their developers are??

    Comment by dilbert — August 10, 2007 #

  32. I think the unasked question is why should we trust Yahoo to fix these issues in a timely manner when they are the ones to let it deteriorate to this point without doing a darn thing to maintain it in the first place. Seems like all you want to concentrate on is making new plug-ins and smiley’s disregarding the entire lack of overall functionality in the program to begin with. One of the Trivia rooms I frequent has switched to PalTalk and the idea is looking more and more appealing…

    Comment by Wayne Harke — August 10, 2007 #

  33. I’m wondering why there aren’t more comments here, about how to fix the enourmous problems Yahoo must have with the rampant abuse of this free service.
    Oh, and promoting a pay service like Paltalk, on a Yahoo blog isn’t very bright either.
    Well, unless you are suggesting the only way Yahoo can fix the problem is to become MSN chat. We all know how big that went over.
    I would expect Yahoo chatters to have a better idea than running away.
    I suspect their servers are overwhelmed by abusive chatters, with 100 plus ID’s, but are trying not to restrict this service for the chatters who actually chat.
    There has to be some sort of verification to limit the abuse. If that is what they are working on, I’m willing to wait it out, and deal with a plausible solution to this growing problem.
    As a side note, during this slow down, I have wildcard ignored 49 porn bots in new ID’s in just one chatroom. Mind you, that’s just wildcard. There are at least ten of the same individual ID in each. That’s just in two days, when I’m paying attention (which isn’t all that much) To stop this, Yahoo will have to do something we probably won’t like too much. But if it stops wasting my time ignoring bots in mass, I’m all for it.
    Perhaps monitoring ignores is one idea to narrow down who is abusing the program, but of course, I’m not a programer.
    Security issues are an ongoing problem as well, as more and more people are learning how to exploit the internet.
    So, if you want to blame someone, try blaming the abusers, not the program.

    I would like to see more from the product manager about the problems they are facing with this very popular free program everyone always complains about. Ask us what we see, and maybe you will learn something about how to make it the best chat program on the planet.
    Wouldn’t that piss Google off?

    Comment by Judy — August 10, 2007 #

  34. Dear Judy,

    No.

    Yahoo chat is not some kind of commune where everybody pitches in to solve maintenance problems. Yahoo is a large company whose goal is to make a profit. Even though chat is free to users, it figures into Yahoo’s revenue scheme. There are people who are paid to maintain and improve the chat service.

    I’m not one of those people. Nobody who replies to these comments is one of those people. We are increasingly disgruntled users of the chat program.

    The chatrooms, which Yahoo is (presumably) interested in perpetuating have gone to dogs. Yahoo has dropped the ball. I’m sure abuse is a problem. Guess what? There are people who are being paid to figure out how to deal with abuse and maintain uninterrupted chat service. They can’t do it anymore? They can’t do their jobs with the budget Yahoo has given them? Fine. No shame in that. Just come out and say it so that we can forget about chat and messenger (many of us will never have need to use Yahoo’s messenger again if and when chat dies, having other messenger programs we prefer anyway) and move on. If they’re going to get it fixed, then they need to provide some kind of timetable a little more precise than “We are moving forward”.

    Just because we are not paying to chat, it doesn’t mean we are not consumers. Yahoo is, or wants to, make money off of us, and that’s swell. That’s how capitalism works. Someone provides a service, someone else uses the service, profit happens. The nice thing about being a consumer is, we don’t HAVE to offer “constructive criticism” or make “suggestions for how to fix the problem”. All Yahoo chat users are not going to put their heads together and make this the best darn chat service in the world. As consumers, all we have to do is say “This is broken. Fix it, or else”.

    Hey Yahoo. Chat is broken. Fix it.

    Comment by Sebastian — August 11, 2007 #

  35. one thing for sure yahoo messenger with it’s chat window displays ads that are paid for, at the bottom of the chat screen as well as the bottom of the webcam window, although it is used freely.. webcam and chat rooms.. the ads provide a billboard so to speak for those who pay for their ads there and like all ads some are responded to others are just ignored and just plain there. so yahoo knows they are getting ‘paid’ for us using yahoo chat rooms by the sponsers of those ‘annoying’ ads.. gotta love .. for instance.. VHF/UHF broadcast, open channels for TV.. recieved freely with antennas and such .. with stations showing commercial spots so the service and programs viewed are ‘paid for’ ya capitalism! yahoo should note the failure of MSN chat rooms when it became a paid service, vs those chat room services that were a pay system in the first place, look at AOL chat rooms… poof in popularity and the rise of Yahoo chat rooms which is still free, they are not that stupid, and the sponsers for yahoo ads aren’t either

    Comment by __ChAnDLeR__ — August 11, 2007 #

  36. besides, booters do not need to be in a chat room to do the thing it does anywayz, it uses the common protocol used to send a IM/PM messege, and what d/c the peson is sometimes yahoo messenger..’crashing’ from the data heavily recieved… so what disconnects for some with darn good connection is a slow/older PC which ends up lagging so bad it crashes the program, ie errors out!

    Comment by __ChAnDLeR__ — August 11, 2007 #

  37. I’m glad that there is at least somewhere to go to get an update–albeit vague– on the current Yahoo problems. It is typical of how things have been lately that I got the link through Yazak.

    Obviously there are many people who are upset, concerned, and aggravated about the current state of affairs in chat. As a courtesy to your faithful clients don’t you think you owe us at least your best educated estimate as to when you anticipate the problems being resolved? Are we talking hours? Days? Weeks? Also, it would go a long way to assuage your irritated clients if you could let us know specifically what changes we can expect when Yahoo finally gets on track. Rumors abound. For this degree of inconvenience I do hope you’re finally going to do something about the obscene number of porn bots, booters, chatters who try to lock down a room by flooding it with bots, and the ghost chatters—the ones that stay on the chatters list long after the chatter has exited the room. Sarah, if you’re in charge of communication with your users we’ll be expecting frequent updates. Frankly, we deserve it

    Comment by Loretta — August 11, 2007 #

  38. I have but one question.

    Has management or the developers actually tried to use Chat lately and see what a horrid experience it has been for months.

    I would like to have been a little bird in the room
    where discussion was taking place between Yahoo and Microsoft over their im compatibility..

    Laff

    Comment by John — August 11, 2007 #

  39. So how many comments do we have to post before the God’s at Yahoo start listening to us? The reason people are using 3rd Party Chat Clients is because they have features that makes Yahoo Messenger look third rate. What we like about the 3rd Party chat clients is the ability to wildcard ignore, user filters so we can auto iggy spammers, bots, and booters, a boot shield, more choices for smilies, an avatar that appears in the chat room when we post, auto connect instead of having to click on the room we want numerous times, and the ability to change chat servers if we have problems with logging onto one that isn’t working. Even before Yahoo Messenger was experiencing all of these chat problems I was using 3rd party chat clients just because of the features they had that left Messenger in the dust. If Yahoo doesn’t want us using 3rd party chat clients then Yahoo should look at these chat clients and try to incorporate these features into Messenger and start listening to us, The Users, to make Messenger good instead of chastising us for using 3rd party chat programs. Having an emoticon contest is just plain ignorant when Yahoo should be working on making Messenger more stable and useable instead of all these chat problems we are experiencing. So come on! Start listening to us instead of giving us empty promises about updates and then coming up with excuses about why it is taking so long to fix Messenger!

    Comment by John — August 11, 2007 #

  40. Breath some fresh air,take a vacation in graceland and you will be thankful that yahoo chat has been down..lol..

    Comment by Botlogsss — August 11, 2007 #

  41. I have to agree with judy….when Yahoo Chat was working one day I wildcarded about 300 ID’s just from one room! Maybe that is the main problem with using messenger is these bots who can make up 100’s of ID’s is less than 15 minutes and then bot up a room where nobody can use it or even get in. Then you have the immature idiots who want to get even with everybody so they start cloning other user’s ID and flooding a room…this is especially terrible in Politics Lobby and Washington Watch. And how come we have a hell of a time posting in the room but the bots seem to not have any problems posting but getting into a room when the rest of us have waited sometimes hours just to get into a room? Maybe Yahoo should make good on their word about our ISP being recorded and trace the bots and clones and start kicking them off and even taking legal action against them. They are making it terrible for the rest of us who don’t do this kind of thing.

    So how long before the updates? Seems by the time Yahoo gets the updates ready most of us will be 6 feet under! Kind of hard to use a chat room from a grave. Are the developers and techs at Yahoo that incompetent that they can’t get the bugs worked out or is it that Yahoo simply doesn’t care and just keeps feeding us little tidbits about getting updates soon just to reduce the amount of criticism they are receiving? Come on Yahoo! We are not ignorant and stupid so quit treating us like we don’t know anything at all!

    Comment by John — August 11, 2007 #

  42. The thing is, things have gotten decidedly worse while the fixes are being worked on. You can’t log into chat whether in Messenger or a client. When you ARE able to log in takes forever to enter a room, that is if you even CAN enter a room because the room is full. Full with more sex-bots than real chatters and the names of chatters who have left and who’s names are stuck in the room. I’ve managed to get into a room that had been full (presumably because a chatter left) only to find maybe be ten chatters and the remaining forty slots filled with fifteen names of chatters who had left long ago and thirty-five sex-bots. Rediculous!

    Comment by virginia_bard — August 11, 2007 #

  43. it does seem to be going fairly slow right now. But if it’s all part of a greater plan to make things work better and fix the botting/booting problems finally then I think we can wait while they are rolling things out. I hope they at least fix the room lockings problem, that is very annoying. I think it’s possible to live with a porn box here and there that maybe will slip through the craccks but not a whole chat room full of them or people allowed to make up dummy names and lock a room up. Also people being allowed to hog the voice chat, there are people apparently using man names on voice chat or many connections or somehow, some kind of exploit, to get more voice time than is fair (or steal someone’s voice time even). That should definately be fixed or the voice chat should just be turned off by yahoo permanently if they can’t fix it and make it fair for everyone. I really think they should have some kind of active monitoring or help desk or something that you could pm maybe a new yahoo helper that way people could be caught in the act of botting/booting if enough people complained at once. Here’s hoping for some great fixes finally for messenger and the chat rooms.

    Comment by chatter_chatter_chatter — August 11, 2007 #

  44. That’s funny so many people have claimed problems with booters. I’ve gotten booted from chat alot of times but I couldn’t say it was a person in the chat room. Maybe it was just the software?

    It would really be nice if the advertisers could get a possible fine for swamping the rooms with their “bots” and irritating people. Is there any way Yahoo! could do that?

    Hey I have seen that sometimes too. I think it sometimes is yahoo themselves or could be your connection even on occasion, so I dont think it’s always a booter. But it does happen a lot and apparently you dont have to be in a chat room at all, just logged into messenger. Once the booter has your yahoo id that’s all they need. Probably they usually get it from a chat room though

    Comment by Make yahoo bot moderators — August 11, 2007 #

  45. “besides, booters do not need to be in a chat room to do the thing it does anywayz, it uses the common protocol used to send a IM/PM messege, and what d/c the peson is sometimes yahoo messenger..’crashing’ from the data heavily recieved… so what disconnects for some with darn good connection is a slow/older PC which ends up lagging so bad it crashes the program, ie errors out!”

    Exactly, and why yahoo needs to start authenticating on user’s preferences on their end and block extraneous packets from being sent to joe chatter or joe y! messenger user if they choose to block non-friends which typically will be non-trusted users. People are fooled into thinking they set their preferences to ignore IMs from non-friends or ignore chat room invitations and etc but dont realize yahoo is still sending them data from non-friends anyway. They need to either block it server side or not disconnect people when they are receiving too many packets. I think it should be obvious that most of the time people aren’t going to be getting thousands of IM packets or chat room invitations and etc within the scope of a few seconds (unless it is for malicious intent),. There is no reason to allow this kind of waste of bandwidth unless the data is appropriate, maybe a file transfer or webcam data, etc. Really it just wastes yahoo ’s bandwidth and the user’s as well.

    Comment by Make yahoo bot moderators — August 11, 2007 #

  46. Paltalk is free for the basic service. You pay extra for webcams and other extras. So, it is either go to yahoo and have my posts eaten and dropped, or i can go to basic Paltalk and atleast chat in VC and text. I think I will go Paltalk until yahoo gets their shit together.

    Comment by Goddess_Goldberry — August 11, 2007 #

  47. that’s a load of crap john. text is not working for everyone in the room where i am in. the problem lies with yahoo. 3 or 4 post per hour showing up is ridiculous.8-}

    Comment by miranda — August 11, 2007 #

  48. I would just be happy to be able to get into chat at this point. Thanks for the update even though its totally meaningless. Must be embarrassing having to constantly lie to your customers all the. Is Sarah even your real name?

    Comment by paddler — August 11, 2007 #

  49. by the way im on an older computer
    pentium 500 mhz 128 mb ram
    and they cant lag me with that config :-)

    Comment by Die Hard Yahoo Fan — August 11, 2007 #

  50. using yahoo messenger to get into a chatroom? no thanks!!! getting booted easely, no knocking feature, not all the smileys available, no refreshroom option, no perm ignore, no ignoring whilest clicking on name on mic etc… etc…

    Comment by miranda — August 11, 2007 #

  51. yahoos a fluke as you can see no updates ..mirror image as always n now they are getting rid of photos ..so as to think there will never be a yahoo chat as used to be….good luck in the future but as of 4 yrs n going now i dont see any

    Comment by jonna — August 11, 2007 #

  52. and yahoo seriusly need to stop proxy connections
    that would sort out an imense amount of booters and laggers and just general exploitation of the yahoo network ***PORNBOTS*** ! ! !…

    Comment by Die Hard Yahoo Fan — August 11, 2007 #

  53. they say they fixing it and they broke it a little more, so they got to get somthing right sooner or later. lets just see what happens

    hey yahoo fixer people ! ! !

    would it be too much trouble as per meany previus posts, to let everyone trying to join and those in chat and to just genrally let your users know what the heck is going on maybe echo some of your official postings as chat SYSTEM/NETWORK MESSAGES. lie hey were trying to fix it sorry for the state chat is in right now, rest assured we are fixing it soon and hope to provide our users with a better service for the future.. some thing like that dont tell me thats too much trouble. causethat would have been more effective than this stupid blog that
    seems funny that yahoo create a blog seperate from chat and not post any system messages dont you think ?

    Comment by Die Hard Yahoo Fan — August 11, 2007 #

  54. First, Paltak has moderators. Yahoo chatters generally don’t like that.
    Second, Millions of people all over the world use this service, not thousands.
    I know Yahoo chat is basically a venue for getting “eyes” as a means of promoting their other services that actually make money.
    But tell me. How many chatters actually click on those links? Also, third party clients use Yahoo servers, which is why they can devote so much more time to bells and whistles. If they had to provide their own servers, they wouldn’t exist.
    Yahoo goes through this now and again. Once it’s fixed (sort of) everyone who ran away will come back.
    That’s the key.
    You complain, but never leave.
    Like Hotel California.

    Comment by Judy — August 11, 2007 #

  55. I just wish that it worked with Vista, wish I could get into rooms when we want to, get rid of the damn bots to make room for people who want to chat, get rid of the booters who screw up the rooms, get into rooms when we want to, worked with Vista, get into the rooms with out getting the comment of “no responce from server”, get in the when we want to, worked with Vista, wish I could get into rooms when we want to, get rid of the damn bots to make room for people who want to chat, get rid of the booters who screw up the rooms, get into rooms when we want to, worked with Vista, get into the rooms with out getting the comment of “no responce from server”, get in the when we want to, worked with Vista, wish I could get into rooms when we want to, get rid of the damn bots to make room for people who want to chat, get rid of the booters who screw up the rooms, get into rooms when we want to, worked with Vista, get into the rooms with out getting the comment of “no responce from server”, get in the when we want to, GET THE IDEA YAPOOP?

    Comment by Cuppers — August 11, 2007 #

  56. i am extremely dissappointed in yahoo lagging now 3months on end when are you gona sortt out your problems and let us chat like we used or is theer a hidden agenda behind all of this.yahoo wake up smell the coffee

    Comment by hawequas — August 11, 2007 #

  57. i hope while yahoo is making the new modifications and hardware switch they will change things so it works with yahoo messenger only (from yahoo). these other programs like yahlite and etc aren’t needed if yahoo can fix things finally and have it work better as it should, that is the only reason those other programs probably exist and i think some of those same people are that are behind those programs are somehow connected with the booting and problems no doubt. why do they call that program yah lite anyway? doesn’t make sense i have seen screen shots, it looks a LOT more complicated than regular messenger nothing light about that. regular messsenger from yahoo themselves is all people will ever need, if they can finally make their system and messenger work better!
    yahoo (jeff/sarah)– please fix it somehow to only work with regular yahoo messenger so we dont have to have these other rogue programs and booter writers connecting to yahoo after your fixes that would probably just leave things back where they started.
    thanks you

    Comment by chatter_chatter_chatter — August 12, 2007 #

  58. i think saray /jeff are doing a good job of having this blog and letting people make comments about the messenger and chat, why are you guys flaming them all the time? even if it is slow now maybe its all for the greater good in the long run?
    i could put up with crippled chat or even messenger for a while if they are working on it to improve things, i think that is fair as long as things are happening. we should be paitient and hopefully things will improve. also die hard fan comment how to protect yourself from booter–lol i dont think most people can do that i think yahoo has tof ix it on their end but if there are people that can set that all up and understand what you said thats great lol, but hopefully yahoo will get it working. i think messenger alone is all that is needed myself, as long as it will work correctly for getting into the cvhat rooms i think that is the problem, yahoo is allowing anyone that makes these other programs to make illegal connections to their service and they should maybe control that more. i am hoping they will make it work so only yahoo messenger itself can connect, then nobody has an advantage and noone can booter and make bots/etc, except for yahoo itself.

    Comment by chatter_chatter_chatter — August 12, 2007 #

  59. I totally agree with Roger & Hawequas….If its not broke..dont fix it! Yahoo is trying to improve things but instead making it worse and impossible to chat in the rooms. Please go back to the old version…its sooooooo much better. Who cares if bots are in the room..so of them are cute…check out the Trivia bot in Islam Chat:6,,you actually learn things from it!! Please Yahoo…..do something and fast !!!
    Adara

    Comment by Adara Muslimah — August 12, 2007 #

  60. #

    My other blog messages were on here for quite a while and now they are off. They were not offensive at all. Someone is deleting blog messages,

    Comment by Mary Ann — August 11, 2007 #

    Yes yahoo remove all things they see as negative (or try to) however lol look @ all the other subjects smiley’s,emotions and genral crap no one cares about what do they have 10 comments max??? it is blatantly obvius what people want NO SPAM is the main concern but then again id rather Spam than the lagg all the old functions are disappearing you can not even add a pic to your profile anymore rendering them utterly pointless apart from info Yahoo has been in decline since the user rooms were removed i honestly can not see a fix coming soon in the foreseeable future No chance notice how they post a umm ”update” if you can call it that then get back to mindless features NO ONE CARE ABOUT EMOTIONS how on earth can someone write so many blogs about frigin smiley’s blows my mind lmao i personaly do not even bother to go into yahoo chat anymore i suggest you lot do the same ITS NOT GOING TO BE FIXED its been like it well over a YEAR it would have been fixed a long time ago remember when they used to patch the logins every 3 months that was when yahoo cared about chat now they obviously do not the ONLY way they will fix it is if they start loosing money from sponsors via the ads etc.

    Comment by Karl — August 12, 2007 #

  61. ok here go’s if you want to protect yourself against booters.
    you will need only 3 things,
    any old modem that lets you forward ports via it’s web based interface and any old router that has a built in firewall and last but not least a good yahoo 3rd party client that protects you against floods and boots, and example is my setup = standard westell launchmodem as my service provider is bellsouth or sould we now say at&t seen as bellsouth was took over by at&t anyway this perticular modem has a web based interface as meany other modems do wich alows you to set all kinds of things how you access this interface is by typing launchmodem in the address bar of your browser or alternatively if you type in the ip address of the modem which in this case is 192.168.1.254 it will bring up the interface from there you can click “NAT/Gaming Configuration” button and forward 5000 to 5009 this perticular modem has a preset for yahoo listed under the Predefined Services list and thus no manual work will be required also from the interface you can find your wan ip address useful for defining the source in your router firewall settings ok so set the yahoo port forward and reeboot the modem after now onto the router firewall please note not all routers have a firewall built in but most do. mine is a DLink di604 this webbased interface can be accessed thru opening another browser window/tab and typing in the address bar 192.168.0.1 and a logon window will appear wanting your username and password this should be set to the default admin= admin and password should just be blank so all you need to do is type admin in where it asks for the username (i suggest setting a password at some point) once you hit enter you will see an interface much like the modems, from her you can click the advanced tab and chose firewall from the list column now here is where you set firewall rules, seen as my wife and eldest doughter dont have a problem with boots in rooms as much as i do i set mine to only block the yahoo ports for my computer only each computer connected to the router has a local ip address to identify it on the network mine is 192.168.0.102 so i set that as the destination and as for the source this is where you enter the wan ip address can be gotten from the modem in the westell is marked in the modem interface as wan ip address, enter it in as the source and as for protocol i blocked every one of them tcp, udp, icmp, this meant creating 3 entrys the same appart from the protocol to block dont forget to click enable and set them to deny traffic (DENY) shedule = always, i set the range of ports to block to 4999 to 5010 just to make shure as sometimes bleed over happens to surrounding ports when they recieve traffic overflows, didnt know what the label the entrys so just labled them appropriately as Yahoo Boot Protection. lmao. ok now open yahelite and chat away, and see if they boot you this time :-) . should you need to you just go back in and select disable and click the checkmark icon and do the same for all 3 entrys and everything will be reversed and i suggest leaving the entrys in there instead of deleting them and recreating them each time a word to the wise if you reboot or turn off your modem for eany reason your wan ip address will change and you will need to go back into each entry and change it as source from the new ip address. all done just fire up yahelite and chat away the packet meter may still go a little crazy but not at the rate it would do and you shouldnt get disconnected this time once i set this i was in a chatroom where they booted everyone out with the best booters and i challenged them to boot me with everything they had over 3 days and they couldnt boot me i was rock solid in there needless to say i had the last laugh. please note that this will block advanced features like file transfers and private messages (pm’s) webcam etc… from working.
    this is posted as a temporary fix till yahoo sort things out. too meany people are getting their computers killed by maxing out the processor trying to process the flood packets on all ports. and also when their computer crashes it auto reboots and looses data and also crash reeboots create bad sectors on hard drives and damage the hard drive disk itself.
    but currently yahoo is in my oppinion and meany others quite unusable at present.
    kind regards: Die Hard Yahoo Fan.

    OMG what tripe there are 2 main! ways to currently be unbootable on the yahoo network you can use a 3rd part client such as Yahaven and use ”gawd” mode or if using yahoo messenger you can use in Prefrences>Connection then you can use the option firewall with no proxies this in turn will force yahoo to use http queries instead of ”normal” ymsg ones this however will not let you have voice but the lagg will be significantly less since its a whole different protocol altogether BUT if loads use it the lagg will return :l as it is now since Yazak etc has the option to use this however this option is VERY unstable .

    Comment by Karl — August 12, 2007 #

  62. C’mon people. Yes this is a trying time, yes we have been waiting for what feels like decades. But if I read correctly in an earlier post, the “Entire corporate tech department” of Yahoo chat consists of a good four or five people. Now yes, this does not excuse the fact that there are no definite answer to when these problems will be fixed, but I’m sure this band of few are pulling over time trying to fix this problem. Don’t blame people like Sarah, blame the company that seems to think fixing things should be like a late night check out lane. Staffed by as few people as possible, even though they have so many others wandering out there.

    Comment by Will — August 12, 2007 #

  63. have any of you guys tried paltalk, its free you can create your own free room no booters,no bots,i have my own room and all my friends hang in there,try it you mite like it,give it a try some of you people are so stuck on yahoo try some new,you mite like it

    Comment by markj — August 12, 2007 #

  64. People, people…you act like yahoo chat having problems is the end of the world. How bout if chat is not working you go read a book or something. Or learn a programming language and apply for a job at Yahoo to help them fix the problems…sheesh… what a bunch of whiners.

    Comment by Jack Hammer — August 12, 2007 #

  65. I suggest we start communicating our displeasure with Yahoo directly to their ADVERTISERS.

    Yahoo LIKES pornbots, roombots, and ghost-nicks. It allows Yahoo to artificially inflate the user count they promote to their advertisers. Advertisers might appreciate knowing they’re being defrauded, and that they are advertising to the largest DISSATISFIED customer base in the corporate world.

    And thanks for the Paltalk tips. I’m going to look at it right now.

    Comment by fred — August 12, 2007 #

  66. I remember the olden days. Chat was fun, you’d log in, skip through a few rooms, and find a few interesting people to talk to. Now that seems like a wildly far of fantasy, since chat has been completely broken and non functioning for about a year now.. doodooddeeedoo.. ho hum.. yawn.. whats new on the net?

    Comment by Fred — August 12, 2007 #

  67. Hi Sarah

    Well, it has been a few days now since your last update. I know the crack Yahoo staff has been working tirelessly to improve service since then so we’d all be curious to know how close we are to resolution of Yahoo chat’s plethora of problems. We are owed way more than another vaguely worded snippet. If we don’t get some sort of concrete time frame I can only assume you’re floundering and things are really bolloxed up.

    Though I do appreciate the effort that a couple of posters have put into telling us how to fight booting, I am simply not enough of a tekkie to understand what the heck they are talking about. Until Yahoo gets its act together I’ll just stick with Yazak. I never get booted when I’m on Yazak.

    It would be a logical courtesy if you would post updates concerning the status of your repairs upon entry into chat (where you currently post the message about recording IP addresses.) Just curious, what DO you do with those addresses? I know several completely obnoxious booters and botters that have been reported multiple times by multiple chatters and nothing ever comes of it.

    I do think the suggestion by one poster to make your advertisers aware of our dissatisfaction with your service is a very good one.

    Comment by Loretta — August 12, 2007 #

  68. I think after all of the security suggestions made by many of us who have commented here, Yahoo may be considering those things and working to implement them. I know I (and others) have challenged Yahoo to provide fixes that actually work, and it is reasonable to believe that delays are caused by exactly this. How many of you could implement SiteKey on your site, and how long would it take you? What if you added OpenID? Or a RSA security dongle (like paypal now has)? As if that wasn’t enough, how about having to choose between those options and the others that exist and seeing if you can keep all (or at least most) of your customers happy?

    Yes, Yahoo makes a sum of money via advertising, but is money the solution to every problem? Surely not – and if you disagree, you do not know much about money.

    That does not excuse Yahoo for letting the condition of the chatrooms deteriorate to the degree that has occurred. We all hope – likely even Yahoo employees hope – that the problems can be fixed to truly solve problems and prevent future problems. Can Yahoo know what those who want to exploit their service will do next? Probably about as well as you can pick the winning lottery numbers with accuracy ahead of time. The truth is that just as other programs get updates, I am certain that the ad/porn bots will get an update also. An solution provided by Yahoo will be temporary at best. A new exploit will be found and shared and 1000’s of script kiddies will have access to it. Another method of selling porn, or 4×4’s, or enlargement pills, or whatever WILL BE FOUND AND USED. The reason why is simple.

    Yahoo has 350,000,000 unique users per month – and while those are last years figures, you think that number has not increased? That is a huge potential market that can’t be ignored by desperate marketers. If you think Yahoo isn’t looking for a way to deal with that, you are wrong. Yahoo sells advertising – they are not in business to provide free advertising. They didn’t restructure, they haven’t changed their business model. If they had, I would have read it in the Wall Street Journal, and that hasn’t happened. What has happened is that Yahoo received enough complaints to pass the required threshold which requires action. Nothing more. So the changes you WILL see, WILL arrive, and WILL be effective.

    It also WILL take time. Let these people do their jobs, stop flaming, and give useful suggestions – real world suggestions – not some fantasy solution that can’t be implemented.

    Comment by Mike C. — August 12, 2007 #

  69. hey CARL
    if what i described is set up right it makes you about as bootable as you can get on yahoo the booters ar hitting ports 5000 to 5009 stands to reason if you block them ports and connect on a differnt port say 5050 like yahelite does you aint gonna get booted IT WORKS ! end of !
    why are you going on about yahzak zack and all the rest of the 3rd party client makes hang out in yahoo chat help 1 and well you know what hand out there long enough and you will see wave after wave of people saying to zak his program(yahzak) caused critical errors on their system zaky boy smokes waaayy too much of the wackybacky if you ask me and a lot of others thats all he does is sit in yahoo chat all day smoking wackybackyand quite frankly i was in yahoo chat help 1 and me and another guy was talking and he busted in our nice conversation and said that our topic of conversation wasnt for the yahoo help chat and proceded to boot us both and he also brought a voice lagger on the room too but luckily he couldt boot his way out a wet paper bag and he didnt even get to boot me but the person who i was talking to he managed to boot 10 mins later the other guy was in straight messenger by the way lmao.
    so keep trying to call my postings tripe and try to lick of the zackyboys REAR and promote a chat client that destabilizes peoples operating systems and crashes them made by a person who also makes booters, sit there and try to promote a chat client from a person that uses copius amounts of wackybacky and does nothing in life but sit in yahoo chat 24-7 talking absolute garbage.

    Comment by Die Hard Yahoo Fan — August 12, 2007 #

  70. and CARL
    i realize my entry is a little on the large side and reposting it is just being silly and scrolling the blog
    make a referance next time, MORON !

    Comment by Die Hard Yahoo Fan — August 12, 2007 #

  71. yes text is still lagging and i cannot get any text to show up i have 2 names in one room and cannot see either name posting to the room and none can see any of the posts from eachother

    Comment by Die Hard Yahoo Fan — August 12, 2007 #

  72. i think mike c is correct i stated something similar.
    and now we can see sarah was nice enough to post an udpate why its working slow–how do we know it’s not going slow due to the changes being implemented? everybody should have thought about that before flaming them.

    sarah i am hoping eventually the changes will block these other programs though from makign illegal connections to your services and you can make it somehow that only the real yahoo messenger can connect with your system. i think that is the problem, these other programs some of whcih may be these exploiter programs or botter/booter, are able to connect to you thus causing the problems. i like the real yahoo messenger the best, it has everything i need, those other programs are mainly just exist to try to fix things yahoo didnt have. but also they allow people to cause continuing problems too! so that is really no help. i also like that the real messenger has the moving smileys and yahoo games & music.

    Comment by chatter_chatter_chatter — August 12, 2007 #

  73. .

    Sarah, thank you for telling us that the rooms will be closed for awhile tomorrow for maintenance. Sharing that kind of information is definitely appreciated. I hope you will share your honest assessment as to how your fixes worked and what is left to be done after tomorrow’s work is done.

    I do find it funny that Yahoo deleted my comment that the posts from people who are obviously Yahoo employees made me giggle. Them deleting that post also made me giggle.

    Comment by Loretta — August 12, 2007 #

  74. Lol you seem to have it in for zack i do not know him.. i dont care who the hell he is if yazack crashes your system o boy do you have pc issues

    the booters ar hitting ports 5000 to 5009 stands to reason if you block them ports and connect on a differnt port say 5050 like yahelite does you aint gonna get booted IT WORKS ! end of !

    Blocking ports….. you even know how booting works seriously? yahelete does not connect using proxy if it did you would be using http queries and then would NOT get voice LOL craig of ymlite makes booters big deal deepthawt sells drugs on line did you know that of course you did not…. ok booting works by causing a buffer overflow yahoo then says hang on a minute and disconnects you if your Internet connection can not download the information faster than it is sent you go BYE BYE regardless of the ”ports” you can use yahelete yazack ANYTHING if you can not download it faster than its sent then you will be booted yahelete not bootable? are you for real lmao it does not have protection @ all hardly no gawd mode no c mode nothing…………. booting is a match of bandwidth simple as! a person on dial up would NEVER boot someone on cable/dsl unless they had certain amplification packets etc o god in fact never mind and its Karl with a K by the way

    Comment by Karl — August 12, 2007 #

  75. Just wait,yahoo is doing the best they can and remember its a free service..Patience is virtue”….

    Comment by PorkMe — August 12, 2007 #

  76. So the chatrooms will be closed for a few hours tomorrow ? – hey that will be a great improvement on being useless 24/7 – maybe you can do it every day !!!

    Comment by leigh — August 12, 2007 #

  77. Yahoo hurry up with this maintenance! My kids are getting upset not being able to login Yahoos.

    5 PCs , 5 Kids , 5 Yahoo Messengers , 1 ISP (1 IP) , 1 Router.

    We getting bored here now , we all been using PalTalk and we’re growing to like more using it every day.

    Comment by Dave (Yahoo Chat Fanatic) — August 12, 2007 #

  78. Unfortunately you can’t please everyone.

    I have been frustrated with the service interruptions only with respect of it being unavailable without advance notice of such scheduled maintenance foreseen by Yahoo Inc.

    However, I have at least found this messenger blog useful to get notice on occasion of any new interruptions to come.

    Beggars can’t be choosers i guess; it’s a decent product though I’ll just be patient with the updates.

    Comment by Albert — August 12, 2007 #

  79. I see all this stuff about Paltalk. First of all Paltalk has spyware and adware. Just a piece of crap. I’m just as frustrated as other users with the Yahoo chat rooms. I just have to be patient and hopefully they will fix the problems. I use YTunnel but this has been so bad that I cannot log into the rooms. There are alternatives. I also go into the AOL chatrooms and thats very stable. Here is a list of things that I think yahoo needs to do for the chat rooms to be good again.
    1.Yahoo needs to have an take away the proxy support that allow bot exploits.
    2.Also put a captcha system.
    3. Credit / debit card age verification like AOL has.
    4. One Ip address restriction to one username.
    5. Bring back the user created rooms.

    Thats my two cents.

    Comment by Ray — August 12, 2007 #

  80. Thanks for the heads up about chat being down on Monday. Otherwise it would have been difficult to tell.

    Comment by pivotal.points — August 12, 2007 #

  81. Can anything be done to Increase the 300 character limit Yahoo has? This seriously slows down text chat, forcing people to break down text in to such small groupings that the room has “moved on” before whole concepts can be expressed clearly. This has the effect of rendering the passing along of advanced concepts nearly impossible.

    Comment by Larry Woodruff — August 12, 2007 #

  82. Advanced concepts? What like green eggs and ham? Use email for your advanced concepts. It doesnt have a 300 character limit. Thanks me later!

    Comment by Jack Hammer — August 12, 2007 #

  83. @ Ray -

    You say this is a list of real world solutions? I disagree and here is why.

    1.Yahoo needs to have an take away the proxy support that allow bot exploits.

    - possible, yet difficult to implement. New proxies are opened every day. Yahoo should hire a staff to find proxies, just so they can be blocked?

    2.Also put a captcha system.

    - CAPTCHA has flaws, take a look at the amount of bots advertising on Yahoo Games. CAPTCHA has been active there for over two months and hasn’t solved the problem. A more effective solution is authentication like OpenID. This type of solution is very diffcult to automate. An even better idea that already uses an item that millions already have is a code being texted to your cell phone like my bank does. There are also RSA developed dongles with a code that changes every 60 seconds or so, and these devices are gaining in popularity AND can be used on more than one website and for more than one user. Well, more than one user isn’t good, but a limit can be placed on how many and what types of accounts this can be used for. Family accounts is a good example of this.

    3. Credit / debit card age verification like AOL has.

    - Not everyone has a credit card. These types of authentication / verification have been discussed before. Please look at the archive from May as well as the two or three other posts on chat rooms besides this one.

    4. One Ip address restriction to one username.

    - This isn’t reasonable. There are universities that share a single IP with thousands of users, and a lot of them probably use Yahoo. This also is unfair to those in developing countries where ISPs may have the bandwidth, but are having trouble obtaining the number of IPs that they need to operate their company within this condition you would like to see. Unreasonable, and unfeasible.

    5. Bring back the user created rooms.

    - Yahoo has said this is not going to occur. I agree with them on this one. I’m not fond of those who exploit children, and that is the reason the user rooms where removed. They aren’t coming back. One bad apple spoiled it for everyone. You can vent your frustrations on those who used the service to exploit children for this lack of rooms.

    I want to let you know that I am not a Yahoo employee, they didn’t pay me, I don’t reap any benefits. I’ve subscribed to a couple of their services, like launch and personals before, but I don’t think that just because I gave them $100 over two years that they will always agree with me. I’ve tried to represent the big picture to you. Sometimes that is a difficult thing to accept – that things aren’t going to get any closer to what you as the consumer want. Yahoo would never say to you to change services if you don’t like what they provide or the way they provide it. I won’t go quite that far, but I will say that if Yahoo isn’t meeting at least half of what you think you need from the service, you can always explore other options. Sad, but true. Yes, I know all your friends are here. Yes, I know you aren’t one of those bad people (I don’t, but will make the assumption and I hope that’s alright with you). Unfortunately, the few who inject code, find exploits, consolidate them into a script, post them – those are the ones that have created the mess that is Yahoo today. It is not personal, I can guarantee you that. It is about creating a satisfactory (key word!) experience for as many as possible. Also keep in mind, you get what you pay for. You do not pay for messenger. You do not pay for games. You do not pay for chat. You do not have to pay to use 75% of Yahoo services. That is one hell of a deal my friend, and it looks to me like the satisfaction ratio is probably about that high, but probably higher – closer to 95%+.

    I think you’ve seen a few things that look good on the surface, but you didn’t dig deep enough. Hopefully the information you get from users with a bit more experience will help you to stay safe on the internet. I know I lived in the clouds for a couple of years, but wised up after I saw the range of things that can be done that are good and bad, useful and useless, effective and wasted code. Time can only show you these things. Until then, take my word for it, or do some research related to all of the matters you’ve brought up. Hopefully you will even discover some of the things that I’ve omitted from this post for brevity.

    Comment by Mike C. — August 12, 2007 #

  84. ray paltalk is not a piece of crap can you make your own room in paltalk lots of my friends have gone over to paltalk,we got sick of looking at the porn bots in the room taking up space,we got tired of being booted,lagg, so right now yahoo chat sucks,will yahoo be like it was 7 years ago i dont think so,to many exploits in yahoo people cracking other people accounts yahoo chat is garbage and i dont think it will never be like it was PALTALK ROCKS

    Comment by markj — August 12, 2007 #

  85. I think having a CAPTCHA step in the log in process is a great idea! It can be implemented in various ways, some of which are easier for the devious to get around. For instance if what is displayed in the captcha box is a graphic, then it is easier to get around than if it is a series of randomly generated numbers/letters created on the fly.

    Comment by pivotal.points — August 12, 2007 #

  86. @ pivotal.points

    You might want to brush up on captcha a bit. Listening to a few podcasts @ TWiT wouldn’t hurt either.

    http://www.grc.com/sn/SN-101.htm (text of podcast RE: CAPTCHA)

    CAPTCHA is nice, but it doesn’t solve nearly as many problems as OpenID does. I think your point is better if you say that it is server side, but why should you rely on Yahoo for all of your security? I don’t put all of my eggs in one basket, and no one else should either. This point becomes even more academic when you consider that if you WANTED to do so, you could not.

    Yahoo does not provide firewall software.
    Yahoo does not provide antivirus software (yes I am aware of the norton bundle with the toolbar, yet this is not a default option)
    Yahoo does not provide an OS for you to run on your computer.
    Yahoo does not provide internet service (although they do partner with at least one company that I am aware of).

    Yahoo also does not require that you do anything other than password protect your account. There are no requirements of upper and lower case letters and numbers and or symbols. If everyone were required to use one of the five real options available, many of the problems you currently have with messenger and chat would become so small they would require no attention whatsoever.

    Those five options are:
    OpenID
    Cardspace / other equivalent
    RSA Dongle
    Texting code to cell phone
    Credit Card number

    Now the question really becomes, if given the option do you have access to at least one of those things? The resounding answer is that yes, you do. OpenID is free and there are already hundreds of providers.

    Seriously, what do you think Yahoo will do? create a certificate for you

    Comment by Mike C. — August 12, 2007 #

  87. AND …

    A CardSpace type application is either integrated or available for every major Operating System including OSX, Windows XP/Vista, and Linux. That means two choices are available to everyone. I suspect for a very high percentage of Yahoo users, it would be three or four of these things (cell phone and/or credit card)

    CAPTCHA looks primitive compared to what is available.

    Comment by Mike C. — August 12, 2007 #

  88. ok here you go karl with a K a simple flood of data can knock you offline if you are unable in any way to keep up with the processing of that data if you block all the ports that data is coming thru
    the data gets turned away bounced of the firewall instead of being processed.
    what dont you understand well you claim to be up on how booters work my friend. im not going to discount what you said about the problem lays with people not being able to process the data quick enough you right there but if the ports are blocked nothing attempts to process the data just turns it away. i think your trying to discount my method of stopping yahoo booters well tell you what post back on here what room you want me in and you can invite the best booter crews with the best booters on yahoo in the room of your choice (please make it a room without any other innocent chatters)

    Comment by Die Hard Yahoo Fan — August 12, 2007 #

  89. Just commenting on some of the suggestions to improve Yahoo chat. First, not everybody has a credit/debit card so using that as a security method will only make a number of people unable to use chat because they don’t have this. Lets not assume everybody has a credit/debit card.

    I have used Pal Talk and the major problem is the room administrators can bounce you out of the room for almost anything, even including not liking you or trying to get even with you. People who praise Pal Talk left out the part about room administrators being censors and limit what you can post in a Pal Talk chat room.

    What I would to see but Yahoo probably won’t implement them is implementing some of the features on other chat clients that outshine Messenger, such as auto ignore, user defined filters, better smilies and more choices in smilies, having a personal avatar that appears in the chat room everytime you post, harder to be booted in, and what I really like is not having certain words appear with ***** like in Messenger. That really irritates me since I frequent the political chat rooms and most of our adults and certain words I use appear as **** in Messenger. Maybe have a filter for words where the user can select if he/she wants these words to appear on their chat screens.
    Another suggestion is increase the room sizes. We go to certain rooms because we have friends in there we have been chatting with for a long time and when the room is full at 50 we either have to wait to get in or get re-directed to another chat room that we really don’t want to go to. Maybe increase the size to 100 chatters instead of the 50 like it is now.
    Maybe the techs at Yahoo should look at the features in other chat clients and incorporate them into Messenger. That is one of the main reasons people have been using other chat clients because of the features they have, especially the ability to block booters and not get booted out.

    Yahoo says they are going to shut down the chat servers tomorrow to do maintenance on them. I hope they can get it back up and running like it was before all the problems started appearing,

    Comment by John — August 12, 2007 #

  90. Well , why dont yahoo ” PATCH ” there servers to stop the booters and bot makeing programs? would solve a lot of problems, atleast with irc there are admins in the room to remove annoying people.

    Why dont they do that, put a Admin bot in all the rooms, set it to trigger if certan things happen or are said, then wham it kicks them out of chat and Chat Banns them for 24 hours >? or just change the login part so you cant make multipul chat names n shit. it normaly takes me 45 – 60min to get in to a chat room and thats on a 8Mb ADSL line ? like WTF! im about to give up and delete yahoo off my computer for good.

    Comment by Aaron — August 12, 2007 #

  91. Yes they need to patch it so it blocks and stops the abusive chatters and room botting and etc, and all the problems that are caused. You could have room administrators, I dont know how paltalk is supposed to work, but it sounds like that might be a case of not being professional. Maybe they have just the opposite problem at paltalk, they have too much moderation and not enough freedom. AT yahoo they have just the opposite, but you have to have something? otherwise its like streets with no cops on the street, where people can feel “safe” to abuse and throw vulgarities and etc at other chatters and they can feel safe to do it because they are using these exploit and able to hog the voice chat and etc even if someone ignores them :o
    Yes they need to fix it and delete the users causing the problems.
    Yahoo removed my listing of known room lockers and booters in some rooms why? Lets see if we have this right–you allow them to keep doing this, but people complain and you not only do nothing, but remove the complaints? :o

    Comment by the_bots_gotta_go! — August 12, 2007 #

  92. The updates must be taking place as everything is completely fubard right now. Hopefully good things are happening.

    Comment by Parry Hotter — August 12, 2007 #

  93. I forgot that I wanted to post this… You can permanently disable the chat filter by going to start/run and then entering in the following: REG ADD HKCU\Software\yahoo\pager /v WordFilter /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f Hopefully this will be fixed soon in the next Messenger release, and the reason the settings don’t “stay put” within messenger itself is that it’s looking in the wrong place in the registry thus resulting in it applying the default settings.

    Comment by Parry Hotter — August 12, 2007 #

  94. I see a bunch of people on here complaining about yahoo and how long the updates are taking. If you stop and think about how many users there are in yahoo, add to it the bots (which it was posted before they were working on trying to remove) and appreciate the “free” entertainment they provide, you all sound pretty silly. Yahoo! does what it can to fix the problems at hand. As for the booters, if you ever notice that they seem to quit working for a period of time and then it starts again, that’s yahoo at work. These programmers are smart and they find ways around what yahoo does. I say you should all appreciate the fact that yahoo is still free and you don’t have to pay for it at all. As for the comment about limiting names….I have quite a few, and when my mood changes, I change my name. That’s one thing I like about yahoo. Just because you don’t like the multiple names, don’t try to ruin things for those that just enjoy chatting using different names at times. Not everybody with lots of names is trying to ruin chat for everybody else.

    Good luck on those updates today Sarah, I really hope it atleast takes away the lag and font swiping.

    Comment by Ann — August 13, 2007 #

  95. Hi Sarah,

    Following on from everyone else’s lead….

    1) Updates: I am amazed at finally seeing somewhere on yahoo providing updates on this messenger service, I now hope that you can keep it up.

    2) Getting closer: How much closer? Havent we been suffering for 3 or 4 years now with bots, booters, lag, frozen room list, locked up rooms and more bots? Maybe now you have chosen to speak to use, you will actually start to listen too, and get all of these problems fixed.

    3) Sure its a free service, but isnt it what we in the business world call a loss leader? You might not earning any revenue from this service, but this is how a large amount of your public experience you, and also how they judge you.

    Lets talk about Net2Phone for a moment, a real bread and butter issue… Yahoo wants my money, it wants me to move away from Skype and use its service, as Yahoo knows very well, there is an extremely large revenue to be had from VoiP calls.

    What chance do you think there is of that happening when my experience with yahoo is one of failure after failure? I use Skype as an alternative means for my clients to contact me, and for many of my outgoing calls. For the most part it works, and I would say I have had less than 1% failure rate with skype, which to me is acceptable.

    Compare this with yahoo… servers down, server maintenance, yahoo booters, yahoo bots …. you knwo the picture by now. My experience with yahoo is one exceeding 30% failure, and that simply cannot be tolerated. Unless Yahoo! does something drastic to address this situation, they will never get any revenue from my direction.

    As my final parting shot, I do not wish to do business with anyone I feel I cannot trust. Yahoo! have eroded any trust I had a long time ago. Bad technical support, lies and more lies when addressing complaints regarding other users, AND not even having the balls (until now) to speak to its public!

    Still this is a start, I hope your journey to gain the respect and trust back from us all, is not too long.

    Ian

    Comment by Ian Grigg — August 13, 2007 #

  96. I’m not waiting anymore. I’ve been trying out Paltalk last two days, based on comments in here, and it’s great. Free w/ small banner ad, $40 1st yr/ $12 renew w/no ads. Great text, voice, and video, lotsa rooms, lotsa people, and available help room. There are even some “Yahoo refugee” rooms corresponding to yahoo rooms. It’ll even talk to ur yahoo messenger buddies .. it says. I didn’t try that part. >> Paltalk.com

    Come on over FROM the dark side!

    Comment by fred — August 13, 2007 #

  97. “These programmers are smart and they find ways around what yahoo does. I say you should all appreciate the fact ”

    They’re not THAT smart, you’re giving them more credit than they deserve. Think about it, most of the people writing these booters and bot makers and 3rd party chat programs doing it in visual basic, or something akin to it. That should tell you something right there. And regardless of that fact, if they were that bright they woudln’t be wasting time writing yahoo “booterz” lol. The problem is, yahoo has a very bad and outdated protocol and infrastructure, and they continue to exploit it until yahoo decides to 1. turn off chat altogether, 2. rewrite the whole thing from the ground up.
    It’s possible to prevent booting, because you are not communicating directly to the person being booted, yahoo is doing it for them. And there are other more professional (yes paid) services that don’t suffer these problems. It’s yahoo’’s protocols and architecture and lack of attention that make it possible, not that these “yahoo hackers” are super bright.

    Comment by yeah_right_lol — August 13, 2007 #

  98. LOL Die hard yahoo fanatic even if you change your settings to ignore everyone not on my list where do you think the packets go ???? to Alice in wonderland NO they still get sent and received if they did not you would not get disconnected simple as. As for your wacky idea of closing ports to prevent booting that is absolute madness it has NOTHING to do with a firewall in anyways shape or form its yahoo that ”boots you” no one else its yahoo who decides when you disconnect the booter sends mass packets yes then yahoo goes automatically o you got to much bye bye that is the simplest way to put it quit trying to convince these people to mess with there firewalls etc its complete garbage so if you connect to a server and change the port you connect with your unbootable even though its the same server LOL this is stupid and impossible if you think yahelete is unbootable my god are you mistaken you must have a hell of a connection not to be booted off it what speed is your cable/dsl lol a firewall has nothing to do with yahoo PERIOD that is laughable all a firewall will do is allow/deny Y! messenger/Yahelete internet access and if you set it to deny YES you would be unbootable because you would not get on yahoo lmao thats the only way it would EVER work once again

    the data gets turned away bounced of the firewall instead of being processed.

    Comment by Karl — August 13, 2007 #

  99. LOL @ that
    the data gets turned away bounced of the firewall instead of being processed.
    i so want sygate pro rubber edition so i can bounce stuff back LOL

    Comment by Karl — August 13, 2007 #

  100. “These programmers are smart and they find ways around what yahoo does. I say you should all appreciate the fact ”

    These are not programmers they make tripe in visual basic /vb.net a chimp could learn vb lmao seriously i reckon i could teach someone who has never opened visual basic a good grasp of it withing a few months i used to like vb but Y! related programs Hmm thats sad lol vb is soooooo 98…

    Comment by Karl — August 13, 2007 #

  101. Hi Sarah

    I hope you’ll be able to post another update after you’re all done high fiving there at Yahoo for all the wonderful progress you made during your maintenance today.

    Comment by Loretta — August 13, 2007 #

  102. Vb is not complex at all unless you get advanced then it gets a little tricky but wouldn’t it depend on what you called basic right?.Basic to me is being able to master the windows registry through vb, using api and making your own active x controls …. So yes it would take a while to teach someone i don’t think id have the patience though i learned from example and trial and error when i got stuck i figured a way around it not asked for help this is by far the best way to learn i asked for help once! and i got such a stupid answer off like 3 people i knew that couldn’t possibly work i never asked anyone again and done it myself lol EVENTUALLY.

    Comment by Karl — August 13, 2007 #

  103. yeah yeah jack and karl .. let’s keep it on point shall we … I can’t see any difference after today’s maintenance … still bots .. still invisble … I’m hangin in there .. but c’mon .. patience is a virtue !

    Comment by alexandra the fierce — August 13, 2007 #

  104. Well, I’m still waitin for the uh…updating to be complete??

    Or was that one posts a joke ???

    Can we really expect them to get it right ???

    Comment by Julianna — August 13, 2007 #

  105. The problem isn’t so simple as to be able to just ignore the bots with filtering. They are still there regardless, cloggong the servers and making it difficult to enter a room and lately, see text without lag. There is nothing wrong with the chat client per se. These bots need eliminating, not filtering. Third party clients are also having problems with the servers. I’m trying to be patient with this, but it’s come to the point where it’s just about unusable right now and I’m seriously contemplating about looking elsewhere. My friends and I aren’t even adverse to paying a nominal fee for chat IF it was functional. Tick tock, Yahoo…

    Comment by Wayne Harke — August 13, 2007 #

  106. I bet we dont see a fix before Christmas..Just a guess =P.

    Comment by John — August 13, 2007 #

  107. Ok! I thought Yahoo said they were going to fix this thing today so chat would work more smoothly? Then how come I am not seeing any improvement in performance? It seems as bad as it was last week. Yahoo claimed servers might be down for 4-5 hours…you would expect in that amount of time they would have fixed it to where it ran smoothly again. I still have terrible lag in chat rooms, missing over 50% of posts, and still having a hard time getting into rooms. Same problems it had last week. Yahoo needs to get their act together!

    Comment by John — August 13, 2007 #

  108. All the “bots” seem to come from about 20 to 30 or so particular web sites – there might be more, though, I’m not sure. They usually have the links for their sights on their profiles. Can’t the administers for those particular web sights be confronted directly?

    Comment by JC — August 13, 2007 #

  109. ok….I have a few points…

    One, I think it is rather funny that the “update” posted yesterday had the comments turned off from the start. To me that is funny.

    Two, Sarah and the gang is laughing their asses off right now. They get paid if chat is up and running or not. To me this is obvious as chat has not ran smoothly in a long time. This is not even taking into acct. the bots and booters. Those can be dealt with, hell at this point I WANT to deal with them however that would require getting IN a chat room.

    Three, and yes this is off subject slightly. Karl, if you are so damn good and figure everything out yourself, why have I not seen your name underneath the latest OS Karl Doorways? (Oh, and I have to agree with Jack, speaking of languages)

    Kip

    Comment by Kip — August 13, 2007 #

  110. am sure there working on it. it takes time chating is free something i am realy greatful for. if it was not for yahoo chat i would not ever have meet my wife. thank you guys for a wonderful chat program

    Comment by hector — August 13, 2007 #

  111. hey everyone how have u girls nd guys been on bebo if u have one nd on yahoo luv u guys nd girls,as frends ok,well im havin fun,i am a very nice person 2 hang out wit….i live in da mish in norh dakota…..i live in a house is clean eveyday well not everyday but sometymes…..well pce peoples luv ya as frends

    Comment by michaela — August 13, 2007 #

  112. hey everyone how have u girls nd guys been on bebo if u have one nd on yahoo luv u guys nd girls,as frends ok,well im havin fun,i am a very nice person 2 hang out wit….i live in da mish in norh dakota…..i live in a house is clean eveyday well not everyday but sometymes…..

    Comment by michaela — August 13, 2007 #

  113. lol anyone noticed how no one can get in chat but the bots get in fine post text fine etc its the same when the logins used to become patched more often bots would still come in Yahoo MUST have something to do with this

    Comment by Terry — August 13, 2007 #

  114. Perhaps with chat, they need to remove all of the ‘adult’ and defacto sexual rooms. This attracts a lot of under-18’s, porn bots, and undesirables that clog up the whole chat system.

    Comment by Leon — August 14, 2007 #

  115. if you want no lag and no dropped text u have to use http login client.

    Comment by yahoo is on its way out — August 14, 2007 #

  116. Please, Yahoo!…no more maintenance or updating…it really wouldn’t cope with much more “improving”…its hanging by a thread as it is….how about you guys go do some filing or something.

    Comment by Pj — August 14, 2007 #

  117. I haven’t been able to get into chat at all in weeks. It doesn’t matter which computer or version of messenger I use. Is anyone else having this problem? Is this temporarily “normal” considering the maintenance that’s going on? If so, when will this be remedied?

    Comment by Robyn — August 14, 2007 #

  118. ahhh..still trying to log on to chat, I don’t think they have smart people working @ yahoo. The people who run bots will find a way to beat the system…they need to hire the programmers who make bots…or maybe the yahoo ppl have bots in their chatroom also..hehe.

    Comment by notabotlol — August 14, 2007 #

  119. awww…c’mon, credit where its due…that update/maintenance they did yesterday was seamless…so seamless I bet you didn’t even notice any difference….rolls eyes

    Comment by Pj — August 14, 2007 #

  120. Robyn:
    I have been having the same problems and it doesn’t matter which chat client I am using…I have tried using Y!Mlite, Yahelite, Yazak, and Yahoo Messenger and it either takes a long long time to get into a room or when I get into the room the chatters list is full but either can’t see any posts or other chatters can’t see your posts. The only thing that seems to work is voice and I am not crazy about using voice to chat. It seems Yahoo has some major server problems and are not willing to fix it. I don’t think it is the chat programs that are causing the problems but Yahoo’s chat servers because I have encountered this problem no matter what chat client I use. Yahoo needs to get serious about fixing it or just do away with it. I don’t even like going into a room anymore because you can’t see any posts or people are not seeing your posts. Gets old when you get into a room and type “Can you see this?” instead of saying “Hello”.

    Comment by John — August 14, 2007 #

  121. a perfect chat would be like the old yahoo chat,no other chat clients but messenger,without the booters and bots,yahoo used to be a great place to spend time,but these days its like a big kindergarden full of grouchy people,bots and booters.only one id per person should be allowed,who needs multiple ids anyway unless they are being deceiving to someone else?they can always change to another id and delete the one they have.yahoo chat is a great chat when its working good.i understand the nessesity of having to do maintenence,considering the booting and bots,yahoo is overloaded with.but ike everthing else in life,with the good things…the bad follows.the scum of yahoo is the bots and booters,they should put their energy into making the world better,not worse!

    Comment by bj — August 14, 2007 #

  122. Hi Sarah,

    Thanks for the updates on what is going on. I just have one request for the Yahoo! Messenger team and that is when the move is finally made to the new authentication and chat servers, please do not leave out us Macintosh users. We currently have a 3rd party client that works as of now but when the change is made we will have to rely on Messenger as there are no current plans to upgrade the client. I can assure you to the best of my knowledge you will not find one Macintosh user abusing the current chat system.

    Thank you , Sloar

    Comment by Sloar — August 14, 2007 #

  123. Thanks for the heads up!

    Comment by The Dog Clothing Company — August 14, 2007 #

  124. OK, so I downloaded Paltalk this weekend because im tired and frustrated with yahoo. I am amazed at how good the free version Paltalk was, so I bought a year subscription for the upgrade. All I can say is WOW. Great cam and voice quality, many rooms to choose from, user created rooms, and best of all absolutely NO BOTS.

    I dont mind paying for a quality service…YAHOO take note. You are driving people away from your free service to service we would gladly pay for if it worked properly and you got rid of the BOTS.

    Comment by dilbert36 — August 14, 2007 #

  125. dilbert36…speak for yourself! Not all of us have a credit/debit card or checking account where we can automatically pay for something like Pal Talk. If Yahoo ever started charging for Chat I and thousands of others would be leaving quicker than a frog can jump a fence. And I am not all that impressed with Pal Talk with the room administrators who can kick anyone out for any reason, including personal reasons. I have used Pal Talk and room administrators are nothing more than censors who if they don’t like what you are posting or saying on voice can bounce you from the room.

    Comment by John — August 14, 2007 #

  126. well john if you dont like the rooms in paltalk you can make your own room and you can run it the way you want to, by the way PALTALK ROCKS

    Comment by markj — August 14, 2007 #

  127. PalTalk DOES have bots in their rooms, just not nearly to the extent of Yahoo.

    Comment by Parry Hotter — August 14, 2007 #

  128. Ok..joking aside, I’ve been pretty scathing about yahoo and its employees’ abilities with sorting out chat. On a more serious note…do you guys also know that not only are we losing lines of text in chat…yahoo is also dropping emails….fact yahoo..you can’t argue differently… losing a hi, huggs etc in chat is one thing..to drop emails..is something totally different….and I for one…have had enough of your cowboy outfit…you’re a mess…and to be honest…I deserve better…you can’t cut it…my emails will be moved to gmail…do what you wish…you’re a 2 bit company that’s lost the plot totally.

    Comment by Pj — August 14, 2007 #

  129. First off let me say that I am not a programmer or and IT person. I can only speak as a user of messenger and an ex user of the chat rooms. I say ex because I have not been able to get into the rooms for quite a while. When they posted that the servers where going down on Monday the question popped into my mind “Who is going to notice?”. As far as most users are concerned they where already down. Its just that no one had pulled the plug.

    I have read several ideas about ways to fix the rooms that sound good to me and a few that even I know that are not.
    A. Limit the number names from one IP address. YES .. Like i said before I am not an IT person but at my level of ignorance of the subject it sound like a good idea. Although i have no idea how it would effect the local internet cafe, hotels, motels and the like I do think it would be a good start at thinning out the bots.
    B. Limiting the time on voice. YES … I have never timed my self saying hi or hello to someone but it should not take that long. I don’t understand where the number 18 came from but for round numbers 20 or 30 sounds like plenty and would keep someone from hogging the mic all day long.
    C. Verification … YES .. Its badly needed in some form or fashion. I guess the real question is, with the way Yahoo has been running for quite a while now, Would you trust these people with your credit card numbers or ANY private information?

    Thanks to the way Yhaoo has handled the chat rooms they have become an almost perfect example of negative advertising. I have had a lot of fun in yahoo chat over the years and truly hope they find a way to fix it. From my point of view it looks like yahoo has two choices concerning the chat rooms, either keep them running and chasing people away (while giving yahoo a bad name) or shut down the rooms all together. IF they want to have chat rooms they are going to have to start from scratch. You can only put so many patches and band aids on a dead horse.

    Comment by OldMan — August 14, 2007 #

  130. amen to that….. they need to start again…..or…..are they up to something really amazingly great and that its just about to happen and its gonna be so good and so great and..(:|.

    Comment by Yahoon — August 14, 2007 #

  131. I gotta say now is the time to really push authentication – it will fix a lot of Yahoo! problems with chat, and messenger, and possibly email also. I read the article about Yahoo having a higher customer satisfaction. What I am suggesting will increase that even more. Yahoo, don’t miss out on the chance to really make your property valuable beyond your dreams.

    Sloar, I’ve got a couple of Macs too, I’m onboard with the OSX stuff.

    Comment by Mike C. — August 14, 2007 #

  132. This is crazy yahoo is gotta be runned by people that dont know what they are doin .

    It looks to me that Sarah could post a update every day cause it shure seems that she isnt doin nothin else there.

    Gettin updates from yahoo is like gettin info. from a doctor here at in our town.
    Your dead before you receive it… geeesh!!

    yahoo get it fixed
    I would hate to give up chat after 7 yrs.
    and meetin alot of good people but…

    Just a little frustrated here tonite like many people I would guess

    Comment by Julianna — August 14, 2007 #

  133. Sarah I have two problems with messenger 8.0 version.
    1. I no longer recieve off line messages and I have tried everything I can think ok, including (in vain) re-installing Messener several times. Instant messages work as long as the program is open.
    2. Emotes will not work in a chat room. When selecting a name after selecting an emote, the name does not appear in the chat room although the emote does.
    Beyond the difficulty accessing chat rooms, 8.0 seems to be a good product but if the product doesn’t operate at peak functionality, it gets frustrating. Any help you can offer will be greatly appreciated. TY

    Comment by JohnT — August 14, 2007 #

  134. Greeting Sarah.
    Can you stand up & face your direct customers, i.e. the users of the chat rooms?
    This very embarrassing. Shame on Yahoo! to leave millions of people in such disarray.
    Why don’t you try to be in their shoes just for one evening, and try to go to some chat rooms so you can begin to understand their frustration.
    Please stop telling us about the maintenance and the performance enhancements. Every time we hear this BS, Yahoo! chat goes from bad to worse. Go check out chat on competitors web site & compare it with what is happening in Yahoo!’s chat room!
    For example, why don’t I see a single bott being able to get in Mysapce chat rooms?
    I guess I have said enough, the rest is up to Yahoo! to get off its loust butts & resolve the servers issues, which is not an excuse in anyway.

    Comment by Cool Man — August 14, 2007 #

  135. I read that article on Yahoo supposedly scoring higher in customer satisfaction than Google. Makes one wonder what questions were asked by the researchers and they asked. Whomever or whoever (never could figure out which to use) put that survey out, certainly didn’t ask anyone that uses chat.
    Oh yeah, just to stay on topic. Has anyone noticed any improvements to chat from the maintenance Yahoo said they did yesterday?

    Comment by Gary — August 14, 2007 #

  136. Has anyone noticed and realized the servers are down (in some places) and the alpha chat servers are unresponsive right now? It’s quite interesting.

    I believe it’s almost time for the new servers to replace the old bot filled ones.

    Comment by Venom — August 14, 2007 #

  137. ok yahoo you are pissing thousands of people off by not providing a stable chat service. every year we all here about the improvements your team are going to roll out but it never happens. the fact is your chat service is at it’s worse and I am surprised nobody has hacked and defaced you bye now out of sheer anger. presently I think it’s safe to say we have had it. the booting has damaged some chat users computers, the porn bots have delivered viruses, hijacking, and spyware for the uneducated new chat users who haven’t a clue who is real and who is a machine. yet throughout all of this boot programs thrive. what are you thinking yahoo?? one last thing. because of the room login lag and dropped chat text many of us resorted to using the http server login as a temporary fix. and what do you do yahoo…..?? you take down the http server so we are screwed again. how pathetic. it’s like you get off on making chatters lives hell. news flash yahoo ; booters have taken over and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see lawsuits on the way.

    Comment by kinda pissed — August 14, 2007 #

  138. still busted, ok im off to irc, good bye yahoo after 8 years, i had fun somtimes but mostly had a dispare for yahoo degrading to this point over too long a period, and the yahoo updates being for new features rather than fixing existing problems it had.
    Good Bye Yahoo.

    It’s been emotional.

    regards: the die hard yahoo fan.

    Comment by Die Hard Yahoo Fan — August 14, 2007 #

  139. i love when people bitch and whine. in my opionion booters are a way of yahoo life. they’ve been in chat since i can remember yet thy’ve not been enough to actually keep people out of chatrooms. the wonderful booters. doesnt’ matter if there are booters, you can quickly sign back into chat again. let me ask you…..would you rather have the booters once in a while and the bots or no chat at all? i’d rather have the booters and bots. there is no perfect chatroom. in fact there are NO chatrooms like yahoo, with as many options of rooms and freedom, not to mention it is free. instead of complaining about it. appreciate things you do have a little more, because nothing lasts forever. including yahoo, or maybe you can just sign off yahoo and breath some fresh air outside. hopefully with all this down time people have managed to enjoy the little bit of summer that is left. have a great day.

    Comment by cheers yahoo — August 14, 2007 #

  140. You guys do not get it do you. Sarah and the other admins do not read this, they simply do not care. They will not even let you comment on the “updates” scheduled for Monday. Reading the comments takes them away from what ever it is they are doing. Dang sure is not updating anything.

    When I first found these blogs I said FINALLY a way to talk directly to the real admins of Messenger. WOW, I am rarely this far off.

    I will continue to log into chat, I have many friends I have made over the years. I just start up Yahelite and head directly to the news sites, normally when I am done with the news chat is ready to go. I mostly use voice so the dropped text doesn’t bother me personally.

    Re read the first paragraph again…it is VERY important!!!

    Comment by Kip — August 14, 2007 #

  141. funny how booter’s are ammuned to all of yahoo server problems. we i mean they is in the booters can log in fine with boot progs and clients. kinda funny huh?

    Comment by yea ok — August 14, 2007 #

  142. yea when u join a room the banner should say”this is a free service you will be subject to booting, damage to your pc may occur, and you may be infected with spyware,viruses etc… but enjoy your chat” .

    Comment by lol — August 14, 2007 #

  143. Great……..now the alpha servers r down…chatted lag free for almost 2 days and now came back from work to find out alpha servers dont login, well if they do tomorrow and since theyre still in ” alpha mode” they might be back working. we had about 100 people on these new yahoo servers and they can be placed into messenger manually, not yahelite. Ymlite and YAZAK both have them – update your clients…and hopefully they will work again like 10 hours ago. the voice server is the same thats why we still meet up with chatters from old servers. If these were the new servers yahoo plans to install – as of my chat experience on them there is … 1. No porn bots. 2. no programs to load bots 3. no lag at all …It was nice …

    Comment by nick — August 14, 2007 #

  144. you can use yazak or yahilite to get rid of bots and arabs,yazak automatically gets rid of bots and the arabs that is what i like about yazak,i don,t have the yahoo yahilite yet.trillion chat is another one that is also compatible with yahoo chat.paltalk is now compatible with yahoo chat as well.yes i,ve had a terrible time getting into the genealogy chatrooms from yahoo messenger.i wish they would fix the problem.the porn bots are a problem and so are all the arabs.the arabs are very rude.that is what is overloading their system.

    Comment by carla jean page — August 14, 2007 #

  145. I just wish Yahoo would hurry and get it “stuff” togeather. I have no voice in Yahoo chat due to Vista and now they are cleaning the rooms up, so I cant even type in the room. Nor see anyone else. Its really a mess and I have started checking out Paltalk and Buzzen. Watch out Yahoo, these other 1 chats may take away your sponser/advertizers.

    Comment by Linda — August 15, 2007 #

  146. Please, just fix it. Never mind the yada yada, just fix it. And, tell us when it will be fixed. Even a rough estimate would be cool.

    Comment by fedup — August 15, 2007 #

  147. I tried Paltalk yesterday – works as smooth as silk – so you see operating chatrooms is not rocket science – wonder why Yahoo can’t “appear” to able to ………..

    Comment by leigh — August 15, 2007 #

  148. Couple of quick comments. Getting off of Java for the chat platform was the WORST thing yahoo ever did. I am assuming java cost yahoo .. . . for a free service is why yahoo dropped it.
    All of the booting I see/experience is being done on the SERVER (yahoo) side and, again, being a free service, yahoo couldnt care less. Yahoo is not about to dedicate anymore bandwidth/speed to a free service.
    The days of enjoyable yahoo chat are over.

    Comment by Fred — August 15, 2007 #

  149. Yahelite and Yazak are far better than Messenger. Messenger’s main drawback is no auto ignore. In Yahelite and Yazak whoever is auto ignored or manually placed on ignore stays there…they can’t get out but in Messenger whoever you ignore can get unignored the next time you log into chat unless you manually ignore them. Also these other chat clients have boot shields and that which messenger is lacking. Aren’t the idiots at Yahoo creative enough to try to add features like these so people won’t use them? Maybe they are using these same chat clients themselves.

    Comment by John — August 15, 2007 #

  150. wow yahoo..okk..back it up to about an hour ago..it worked for half hour .it was working perfect then..improvement on the 20 minutes on the 13th..soooooo……dare we hope????

    Comment by Pj — August 15, 2007 #

  151. I did notice when logging in that only one of yahoo’s servers was up and running…the other two are down…so that makes me believe they are hooking up the new servers today, since before the lag started again, that one server was running pretty fast. I could be wrong though, just an observation…

    Comment by Jon — August 15, 2007 #

  152. I have to say that the updates we got, are a surprise to me… but very much appreciated. However, whatever you’re doing to the chat room servers is causing more problems then you’re fixing.

    Wondering why there seems to be a 2-3 minute lag in typing in a room?? Been going on for awhile. Whatever was implimented on the join room feature, is once again taking you on a yahoo vacation, and bouncing you from one room to the next to the next, etc. Please put it back the way it was!!!!!!! I’d rather deal with bots, then not be able to chat at all.

    Comment by Netti — August 15, 2007 #

  153. I’m really disappointed after ten years of chatting in yahoo it is becoming an unpleasant experience more often than not. I can overlook the bots, but the cloners are taking up space preventing others use of their normal chat rooms, the lagging, people being seen by a few not at all by others, connection time never being completed –it has become pitiful, but it has freed me of the chains that bound me, I miss seeing my friends but they all have the same problems, they understand–I am not going to paltalk etc—one habit to overcome is enough–thank you YAHOO for the good years

    Comment by lukee — August 15, 2007 #

  154. You all can relax, I have taken my meds, and will not verbally assault any more yahoo chatters. I agree with Yahoon though, I wonder if Sarah is cute. If so, I would like to bring home the Bacon!

    Comment by Jack Hammer — August 15, 2007 #

  155. Yahoo just needs to scrap the chat rooms. Its just useless now. I will not install Paltalk that has adware and spyware.

    Comment by Ray — August 15, 2007 #

  156. I’d hate people to know that I was the Product Manager of Yahoo Chat …. Sarah you must have many sleepless nights …. If you don’t then you should have.

    Comment by leigh — August 15, 2007 #

  157. text is STILL lagging or not showing up.

    Comment by miranda — August 15, 2007 #

  158. Yahoo chat is working fine now.

    Comment by Larry — August 15, 2007 #

  159. nevermind its lagged again, but at least seems they may be working on it.

    Comment by Larry — August 15, 2007 #

  160. hey, I think I’m being to like this kind of chat maybe I’ll give up yahoo messenger and stick with this kind of chat now at least people can see my posts… haha!!

    Was thinking here and I know sometimes it gets me in trouble but I do wonder if Sarah and others from yahoo really ready these posts I’ve not seen a thank you from her from any of the suggestions that people have posted on here. I know she isn’t going to say anything about all the whining like I have done but would be nice to know that she is reading all these posts from a comment from here on here…

    Anyone else agree with me ???

    Almost ready to change over to a post on this site chatter than in messenger.( Rolls Eyes Here).

    Some are beginning to be special to me like Jack Hammer . I might have to look him up in his reg room when yahoo starts working right again lo

    Comment by Julianna — August 15, 2007 #

  161. and sorry but could you take this culprit out he has been a thorn in everyones side for meany years on yahoo chat, pleasze trace him back and ban his isp ident. and could we request that you do the same with all the bot names that are posted here on the blog it isnt hard yahoo traces more than ip adresses by default please dont deny it.
    these kind of attacks on peole take out their computers and think of how meany people have had their computers burned up literally with this dont the culprits deserve an isp ident ban for life for cyber crimes can we put a price on how much damage these people have done to users over the years not to mention lost revenue in advertising when they boot an entire room out all day long and not just one room several rooms at the same time 24 hours 7 days a week lagg your servers FOR YEARS !.

    and by the way is the lagg dues to an error on your part or is it an attack by hackers ?

    Comment by Die Hard Yahoo Fan — August 15, 2007 #

  162. damn people please stop spamming screen with bots…thats stupid even in the eyes of a semi-literate computer user. Alpha servers r working now, and regular servers speed up a little. There is a way to break CAPTCHA with numerous websites showing how. OpenID i hear is stronger, but since i dont know much about it i have to say the only way to stop this is to disable PROXY LOGIN. PERIOD. third party clients can have an option to login http proxy which might never be tracked…but YAHOO can automatically disconnect SOCKS proxy used for voice. Otherwise…..all these yahoo programmers will find the time of day to get around the new servers also….THEY GET PAID FOR THEIR BOOT PROGRAMS !!

    Comment by nick — August 15, 2007 #

  163. i cant get into chat now…it was going good earlier

    Comment by notabotlol — August 15, 2007 #

  164. So we shouldnt make it harder for these people using boot programs flooding our computers and maxing out our processors till they overheat and burn out ?
    NICK, your not going to tell the majority of posters to this board not to post on the topic of boot bots,
    THATS WHAT THEY ARE ALL POSTING ABOUT !
    Look nick im not blasting you your comment is sound appart from asking people to stop scrolling this blog. There will be wave after wave of people posting bot names, until the moderators of this forum post a means to send them the boot bot names, an email address or somthing, Or another blog line.
    Oh and by the way yes people pay for booter programs and they also pay for 1000’s of names to boot with, if we post those names and they get taken out, and they dont last long then people who are doing the booting will eventually stop paying for those names that are going to last one time. they will run out of boot bots and thus be peturbed from spending more money for more names only to get them took out by somone posting them to yahoo. are you one of those booters ? because the only people that dont want those names posted and took out are those that use those names, everyone else wants them took out !. thats obvius by everyones postings.
    Please could the moderators of this forum post back with a email address or somthing to send those boot bot names to instead of us all coming in here scrolling this blog. PEOPLE POSTING IN THIS BLOG WANT THEM TAKEN OUT THATS OBVIUS.
    PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR USERS WITH A MEANS.

    Comment by Die Hard Yahoo Fan — August 15, 2007 #

  165. People need to just quit complaining. If you don’t like Yahoo then chat elsewhere. Be appreciative that they are working to fix things, and that they give us any updates at all.

    Sure it’s messed up horribly, but have a little faith. If you have nothing better to do than sit around all day trying to log into chat rooms – you need a life.

    Comment by Parry Hotter — August 15, 2007 #

  166. Die hard yahoo fan……..I know how boot programs work, and they are able to create 100 names within 1 minute. So what is the point of posting 40 names? They can also crack names in 2 minutes, many of them. Im far from a top notch programmer, but i do code and my major is I.T. and from experience i know that yahoo attackers will go out of their way to get bots into the room ( they get paid for it). So inserting a simple plugin like Captcha won’t stop them. Yahoo can easily stop them however by RESTRICTING options like socks proxy, but there is nothing we can do about it. For now, update ymlite or yazak – use the alpha servers – they work most of the time – and they DONT LAG AT ALL.

    Comment by nick — August 15, 2007 #

  167. This is just crazy!!! I have been trying to get into a chat room for over an hour, but can not. No matter what room I click on to enter, that is NOT the room I end up in. When I DO get into a room, (NOT the one I want) the text portion is not working properly. I find it very difficult to believe that yahoo CAN’T fix this problem in a more timely manner.

    Comment by Roze — August 15, 2007 #

  168. why is there only one chatroom open? is yahoo closing down the chatrooms altogether? because that is what i am hearing.i have also heard that google is buying out yahoo.is this true? and are we going to have to start paying to use the chatrooms? because i have heard this also.please reply back to me sarah.thankyou very much.

    Comment by carla jean page — August 15, 2007 #

  169. there is only one chatroom on yahoo messenger that is working at all and that is GENEALOGY 1
    ALL THE OTHER CHATROOMS ARE CLOSED!
    PERIOD! I HAVE HEARD TALK THAT YAHOO MESSENGER IS CLOSING DOWN!

    Comment by carla jean page — August 15, 2007 #

  170. “Die hard yahoo fan……..I know how boot programs work, and they are able to create 100 names within 1 minute. So what is the point of posting 40 names? They can also crack names in 2 minutes,

    These yahoo “l33t” hackers are not all that. They have an easy target is all. And it would be possible to prevent that many names from being created in that short of a time interval, proxy or no. All they would have to do is require a CC# and have it be authorized each time a yahoo account is newly created, store it and look it up for subsequent accounts, forcing 1 id per unique CC #, or at the very least 1 authorization per 24 hour period. No CC? Then use a driver’s license, SSN, bank account routine #, anything that could uniquely identify the party. ebay and various personal sites do things like this already to confirm and verify id.
    And if such a thing existed the “l33t” yahoo hackers (which they really aren’t, otherwise they’d be hanging on IRC instead of yahoo) would be relegated to stealing cc #’s, and it becomes an entirely new ball game with ID theft. They could even implement authorization through email, forcing the user to log into their email, and click a link to verify credentials before allowing the new ID to be stored in the db on their end.

    And regardless of whether booter names are created or proxies exist, yahoo can stop all booting activity by giving the user the option to block all packets from being received unless the sender id is on their user list. How are you going to send a packet to joe user if yahoo drops it into the bit bucket instead? That’s what they really need to be doing because these bot attacks on people just waste yahoos own bandwidth and resources by allowing it with their current architecture.

    btw my advice–don’t major in information systems–major in electrical engineering or a related discipline like computer science or even physics or math. And don’t put “I know how booters and yahoo chat packets work” on your resume. In an interview they’ll ask you what that is and how it relates to your relevant work experience, and when you tell them they’ll probably laugh at you.

    Comment by yeah_right_lol — August 15, 2007 #

  171. Yay! Chat is back! And Bots are being zapped!

    Comment by Roger — August 15, 2007 #

  172. So what is wrong with Laghoo now? I tried to get into a room I usually go to and damn! it had me bouncing from room to room and over half the room were nothing but bots! I got bounced into 4 different rooms and I swear over half the room were nothing but bots. Seems Laghoo didn’t even address the bot problem and now they are worse than before Laghoo became so screwy. So what are the techs doing at Laghoo? playing video games instead of fixing chat? I had a hell of a time just trying to get into a room and then I got into a room I didn’t even want in and it was almost all bots. Surely Laghoo can do better than this!

    Comment by John — August 15, 2007 #

  173. you know this is the worst that i have seen yahoo. I am not sure what is going on there, but it is terrible. I am using the latest and greatest messenger, and it sucks. there are only a couple of chat rooms open, and it appears that your servers are having quite a few problems. as a stock holder, this is really awful. If I had a choice to advertise on yahoo, i definitely would not. It would be equated as bad service, which is what you are giving us shareholders and paid users

    Comment by Rachel — August 15, 2007 #

  174. Yahoo is real bad tonight. Been using Yazak and in the space of 30 minutes iggied over 1900 bots! Seems no matter what room you go to there are at least 30 bots in the room. So it seems Yahoo is not going to do a damn thing about the bots. No wonder I am using other chat clients instead of Messenger. If I was in Messenger would be spending all night iggying bots. Yahoo needs to get off their butts and start fixing chat and find a way to block the bots. This is getting real silly, especially tonight when you are iggying bots left and right.

    Comment by John — August 16, 2007 #

  175. ok….in about 45 minutes I iggied almost 3300 bots….so Yahoo is not going to do a damn thing about this are they?

    Comment by John — August 16, 2007 #

  176. lmao ya know whats even more frustratin then the damn bots tonight… clicking on a room you want (like 227) to join n being sent to room 1 or 2 or 4 or etc… O my talk about fun and then tryin to find all the people that u enjoy talkin to is impossible tonight pfft… anyways this is becoming a real drag… I like to get on chat n meet n get to know all kinds of people from all over the place n all this chat probs lately just totally SUCKS…. SO FRUSTRATIN

    Comment by C — August 16, 2007 #

  177. so you got stuck on the Yahoo Express huh? I know what you mean…I was bouncing from one room to another and everyone I was sent to was filled with bots and I mean bots….never seen so many bots in a room! Another chatter I was talking to had almost 4000 bots iggied! This is getting real frustrating….Bots have no problems getting into a room but us regulars have one hell of a time getting into any room. apparently Yahoo is going to let the bots take over chat and there ain’t a damn thing we can do about it!

    Comment by John — August 16, 2007 #

  178. Lmao this is too funny… maybe we should just tell everyone to post comments on this blog just to be able to talk to each other lol…. so so sad… hey at least the bots won’t be on here lmao… I really do hope chat gets fixed soon because it is such a shame ur either dealin with lag, bots, not being able to get into the room u want or whatever’s being throwin at u it’s startin to get irritatin lol

    Comment by C — August 16, 2007 #

  179. yahoo’s new servers are out folks. that means c-mode and gawd mode dont work ha ha

    Comment by lol — August 16, 2007 #

  180. Sarah,
    New servers up and running,loads of problems,bots etc.The worst problem I have found is displaying peoples age and location from their a/c info.Now thats not good.

    Comment by unhappy.chatter — August 16, 2007 #

  181. It appears Yahoo has rolled out their new servers! So far it’s been standing strong in terms of stability and performance. HOWEVER, it does mean a few things are different. Since these are newer servers only room 1 will be available until room it’s full, then room 2 will be created, and so on. This is why nobody can get in to the high number rooms that they normally go to… they haven’t been created yet!

    They also behave a bit differently. Instead of sending you a “this room is full” message, you automatically get put in the first full non-full room. Also note that the /join command is now CASE SENSITIVE. For example, “/join chat central:1″ will not work, but “/join Chat Central:1″ will.

    It may take a while for things to settle, but these changes were for the better! Hold on tight. Things will improve. Now that the performance and lag issue are gone, Yahoo! can start focusing on eliminating the bots.

    Comment by Infinite Luta — August 16, 2007 #

  182. good morning –new day —new approach to chat–enter room of yahoo’s choice–hang out for less than 3 mins get chat error and another and sign back in–what fun. Please do not tell me it is back to old problem I had –everytime a friend came online or left or I got an email I was dumped??

    Comment by lukee — August 16, 2007 #

  183. ok not that problem because get dumped even without any friends etc-just says chat error-and the bots are there just cannot post their sites apparently

    Comment by lukee — August 16, 2007 #

  184. id like to no what is going on with yahoo to day u cant get in rooms were u want to go u end up in a diff room..thought yahoo was takeing care of things the other day an here we are to day an its the worse iv seen in for a long long time

    Comment by kylla — August 16, 2007 #

  185. It appears right now, that its gone back the way it used to be…room 1 has to be filled before room 2 opens..then 2 has to be filled before 3 opens etc etc…one good thing that the bots do..is open up the rooms for us…be patient and they will eventually open up.

    Comment by Pj — August 16, 2007 #

  186. Not being able to join the room number of your choice (ie not being able to join room 3 until rooms 1 and 2 fill up) is unacceptable. You people need to fix this immediately, and don’t even dream of leaving the rooms like this on a permanent basis.

    Comment by Sebastian — August 16, 2007 #

  187. If yahoo thinks it can solve the connection or lag problem without keeping the porn bots flooding the rooms under control, it’s surely mistaken.
    You would think that for a fortune 500 company yahoo would have the expertise and willingness to keep porn spammers off their servers for but NO!!!
    What are they doing with the all the IP addresses that they are supposedly recording?
    Is it that difficult to figure out where the bots are connecting from with the same obvious dumb lines they use repeatly over and over again?
    I am also really curious what kind of companies would pay to advertise or associate themselves with a chat service full of porn bots.
    I’ve met some interesting people online thru chat over the years and it’s been very entertaining at times but lately it’s getting ridiculous.
    It’s a good thing that yahoo is not in the software business with the level of incompetency they demonstrate with the bug ridden chat client and the crippled chat server.

    Comment by roflmao — August 16, 2007 #

  188. stop whining as u can see there is no room lag,no porn bots except some that havent logged out yet, and ytk and ymlites room lockers and booters dont work on these new servers. just be happy you can join a room and post text now. yahoo will sort the bugs out soon.

    Comment by darn — August 16, 2007 #

  189. yea i bet all them porn bots are super pissed right now ha ha.

    Comment by yes sir — August 16, 2007 #

  190. response to comment by roflmao. there are no porn bots in the rooms anymore stupid. and if msn keeps em out why cant yahoo. the only way we will have room fillers and porn bots again is if ytk and ymlite start exploit searching again.

    Comment by yea ok then — August 16, 2007 #

  191. Why bother fixing chat? All that’s left are pedophiles, fakes, posers, morons, idiots, passive-aggressive little boys living in daddy’s basement, booters and other idiots. They’re ALL chatters. Maybe some of these deadbeat mommies would spend more time with their kids and less time in front of the keyboard if chat were gone. As a stockholder, we’re losing all kinds of ROI on chat. Let’s end it now.

    Comment by Donut — August 16, 2007 #

  192. Chat is totally offline again… without any preventive message here…

    15:30 CET

    Comment by Winstar — August 16, 2007 #

  193. seems porn bots still enter so yahoo add the security code upon join in please.

    Comment by hmm — August 16, 2007 #

  194. Hmmmmm, looking at my friends list and not one of them are in chat. Seems like Yahoo arent letting anyone in so I guess the bots can all talk to each other. What a disgrace to what was once a great chat program. What a disgrace to let down millions of Yahoo supporters.

    Comment by Lyn — August 16, 2007 #

  195. Looks like you’re back to being able to join whichever room you want, ie joining room 3 even if rooms 1 and 2 are not yet full. Glad Yahoo finally got something right. Now let’s see if they can keep it running through the weekend.

    Just waiting for YahElite to hopefully update so that I can start using it to join rooms again and Yahoo will have succeeded in the daunting task of making the rooms more or less as acceptable as they were before they started monkeying around with them in the first place. Well done!

    Now let’s have a contest to decide which new emoticon should be used for the big messenger Sudoku tournament the prize for which will be new Fallout! Boy! ringtones for blah blah blah blah….

    Comment by Sebastian — August 16, 2007 #

  196. there are no pornbots???? what!!!! WHOA!!! all the politicsrooms are LOADED with pornbots starting with lisa, amanda or elisa.who said there are no bots??? ROFL!!!

    Comment by miranda — August 16, 2007 #

  197. oh and a minor detail, just a small one. there is still NO text!! and when you want to lets say join room 10 you end up in room 42…or 43 or 41 etc…

    Comment by miranda — August 16, 2007 #

  198. Chat works for you? In italy no room can be joined….

    Comment by Winstar — August 16, 2007 #

  199. OK i think yahoo finalized work started back in 2004: italian chat is over. Rest in Peace.

    Comment by Winstar — August 16, 2007 #

  200. No, there are more pornbots than ever. Oh and more booters and scrollers, which are more effective because Messenger is still second rate when it comes to auto-ignore lists and the like. Like I said, they’ve managed to restore chat so that it is only marginally worse than it was before they started this mess.

    Comment by Sebastian — August 16, 2007 #

  201. Hi,

    Infinite Luta makes infinite sense! Please continue
    to post more of such analytical posts. Thanks very much, Infinite!

    Yes, the performance is far better and no lag. When people complain about not being able to join a lobby of their choice, they don’t seem to understand that these are new servers and all the rooms are not created yet.

    They are not commenting (complimenting) about how fast they have been able to join a room. Hey, give Yahoo a big hand.

    Comment by loves_y_chat — August 16, 2007 #

  202. I HOPE ITALIAN ROOMS WILL BE RESTORED!!

    Comment by Winstar — August 16, 2007 #

  203. msn had one advantage in evry room they had moderators, a certain number of moderators was assigned to a certain number of standard msn created rooms, when somone went to a room and discovered it full of bots and/or scripts causing problems they just hopped arround the other rooms till they found a admin and pm’d or told them about it in main chat text and that admin would fire up a bot in what ever room and take em all out or alternatively you could go to the msn help desk room and wait in line to chat to the moderators and let thewm know about your problems. msn chat kept changing their chat ocx a hell of a lot and scrambling everything and when somone signed in it downloaded the new ocx and chatted fine but the scripts needed patching because of it half the time (not always).

    Comment by Die Hard Yahoo Fan — August 16, 2007 #

  204. When the still sea conspires an army,
    And her sullen and aborted currents breed tiny monsters,
    True sailing is dead.

    -Jim Morrison-

    Comment by Apollonian King — August 16, 2007 #

  205. From a purely metaphysical perspective Yahoo! has become a virtual god in the virtual world of the Internet. If we stare too long at Yahoo!’s method of divine hosting we will all begin to believe things about the REAL universe that are not true. The creator of the real world is not so cold and distant as this Chat Service in heeding it’s users and implementing ideal changes.
    Just think about it.

    Comment by Apollonian King — August 16, 2007 #

  206. when i pick a specific room…it doesn’t let me get in??? It brings me to a different room….Is anyone having the same problem??

    Comment by fixyahooplz — August 16, 2007 #

  207. Well, it is 10:15 CST.

    Login seems quick enough, but lag in accessing a room, and once your in there I get nothing… I can PM people on the chatters list, but no typing in the room itself.

    It seems there are way more bots on the list then usual, at least in the Nevada rooms, but at least they aren’t typing anything.

    Any clue when the rooms will be functional again?

    Comment by Professor Wizard — August 16, 2007 #

  208. can someone from yahoo PLEASE log in to one of the rooms and look for themselfs how many pornbots there are in there? looks like someone is trying to crash yahoo with thousands of bots.

    Comment by miranda — August 16, 2007 #

  209. Just one more thing… General information stuff…
    When a server ignores or ‘drops’ a ping in a selective way (as in Yahoo!’s denial of chat pings but not ymsg or voice pings) there should be suspicion of reverse programming on the part of the host. Have you people noticed that it has never been an issue of getting your name logged into Messenger or an issue of obtaining a voice cookie? The only problems occur almost exclusively with the functions of chat; login and text specifically. This would never occur under normal server programming and can almost definately be attributed to an intentional downgrading of the functionality of the Yahoo! Chat servers. To think that a multi billion dollar ISP of any kind at any level of service would allow this to happen by circumstance is a product of group ignorance and whitewash. We are being toyed with like mice. Face it and stop trying to understand it.

    Comment by Apollonian King — August 16, 2007 #

  210. mirinda your comments are useless. stop making falso statements.oh yes some porn bots still joining but keep in mind yahoo is not done. this is the beginning and yea it will be nice when you have to type security code to join room.

    Comment by shut up — August 16, 2007 #

  211. no bots, no lags??? where are connecting from? in your dreams or from your yahoo office?
    yeah I can see it’s SO much better now (el oh el) after you guys have been busy working on this for last few days or has it been weeks or months?

    By the way please be nice to people who are reporting geniuenly as they see it eventhough it’s what you yahoo support folks with the beavis and butthead attitude would like hear.

    Comment by roflmao — August 16, 2007 #

  212. comment to roflmao u just want yahoo to bring back the old servers so u can use your room locker and booters again. your not fooling me fool. and i bet your pissed c-mode and gawd mode is gone to right. thought so. thanks yahoo for beginning to bring chat back to life and taking ytk out of business.

    Comment by shut up — August 16, 2007 #

  213. folks pm bombs still work just set your messenger settings to freinds only to avoid it.

    Comment by shut up — August 16, 2007 #

  214. yea dont waste 25 bucks on a chat companion like ytk pro when yahoo has the same protection. also i dont see yahoo handing out booters to the public like ytk has done and ymlite.

    Comment by yepper — August 16, 2007 #

  215. Lord! Yahoo fixed chat? give me a Break! Bots where a problem and whatever Yahoo did to chat the Bots are flooding almost every room in Yahoo Chat. Some of us who were using Yahelite and Yazak just from last night iggied over 3000 bots in less than an hour! The morons working at Yahoo should try to go into the rooms and see how bad the bot problem is really getting. I don’t think they even try to go to the rooms so they have no idea how much problems the bots are really causing and making it difficult for us regulars to even get into a room. And whatever Yahoo did it is no fun bouncing from room to room only to find out you are the only real person in the room and the rest are bots. This happened in almost all of the political rooms and in the Location rooms. Yahoo didn’t fix a damn thing and it does no good going to Yahoo Help and reporting a problem. I don’t think they even read what you are reporting because they keep sending you an email back about using ignore….give me a break! Most of us know how to use ignore but it gets real time consuming right now going to each room and putting on ignore 50 bots from each room. Yahoo really needs to start reading what we are saying instead of sending a stock email back with crap we already know how to use.

    Comment by John — August 16, 2007 #

  216. lol another booter who wants old servers back so he can fill rooms.grow up

    Comment by lol — August 16, 2007 #

  217. I just want italian rooms again… they have disappeared

    Comment by Winstar — August 16, 2007 #

  218. Well if yahoo is having to recreate some of the rooms why cant we post which rooms for them to open like CM 41
    I live there and there is about 30 others that make that their home also. If we have to wait till the other rooms open we gonna be hurtin for a long time.
    And when you combine two different rooms it just doesnt work I mean people do get along for awhile but each room is
    different and how they like the room run.

    But I have been in the lower numbers of the Country Music rooms and there is no posting going on now only voice.
    I hope they leave voice alone cause if we lose that we are in big trouble.

    Patience is a Virtue well at my age I have all the Virtue I can handle.
    When opening rooms up in yahelite it takes the bots to help open the next room so some bots are ok to me to have
    Anyways, life goes on and on the bright side I have had time to do more things around the house and outside now that yahoo is under-construction, So guess thats a good thing.
    Trying to be positive now that yahoo will be faster now that they have new servers up and running (hopefully wishes).

    Comment by Julianna — August 16, 2007 #

  219. Did you freaks not get my last posts? Yahoo is doing all of this on purpose. Pull your sad asses in and move on.

    Comment by Apollonian King — August 16, 2007 #

  220. Apollonian King you must be a 420 nut .
    Or I take it your a young person by your posts you have to be one or the other.

    Ok ya’ll can anyone tell me if the rooms are ok now and if by updating to the newest messenger is a good thing
    I still have the older version saved here.

    I’m not shure they have the bugs worked out of it and why they would update servers when that version is still messed up

    Comment by Julianna — August 16, 2007 #

  221. yes there is someone who has found an exploit and is filling the room with cam bots which do not have profiles( check out windows chat room 1 for example). I have visited the so called best booter sites and not one of them claim to have a working room filler in further the admins of these sites state there are no working room fillers. and keep in mind these cam bots have sexy names (porn names) but they are not the real porn bots that talk or send pm’s. now it’s time to use are head for a moment. who has the ability to find this exploit so fast? I would bet my life ytk pro staff and y!mlite staff is the culprit. why? well ytk pro’s(ytp pro is a yahoo chat companion that has spam and boot protection etc..) staff member who i wont mention has posted in a forum he has found all exploits and he himself boot’s people. ytk charges 25 dollars for their program and this ytk staff member will do anything to stay in buisiness even if it means loading bots in random rooms and possibly releasing booters and room fillers(secretly) to public in hopes yahoo will go back to its other messed up servers.for the record this is my opinion.

    Comment by what now — August 16, 2007 #

  222. wow if that where true yahoo surrendering and going back to old server that would mean these chat companions sales would continue to grow.

    Comment by wow — August 16, 2007 #

  223. well somebody figured out how to exploit Yahoo’s Chat Servers,,,in less than 24 hours I have already iggied 7700 Bots! Seems no matter what room you go to 90% of the room is just bots. People are getting fed up with this crap and can’t even chat because you are busy iggying bots. I don’t Yahoo is going to fix this problem and it has been almost two weeks now since Chat has been really messed up. Don’t bother reporting this problem to Yahoo…all they do is send you an email back telling you how to ignore people…..Give us a break! Most of us know how to ignore other chatters,,,what we want to know is what is Yahoo going to do about this and when are they going to do something about it if ever. Sending us an email back about how to iggy other chatters when we report a problem insults our intelligence! Apparently Yahoo must assume people don’t know how to iggy people when the problem is the bots filling up the rooms regular chatters can’t even get it.

    Comment by John — August 16, 2007 #

  224. you would have thought that if yahoo changed the way the rooms were created (fill up 1 before 2 opens up), that the rocket scientists there would have fixed the rooms listing. It hasnt worked (or been updated) in months, I always see the same room numbers with the same number of users.

    But on a positive note, server lag has been fixed, so now I can play seduko with the porn bots filling the rooms…funny I send them invites to play…but they ignore me :-(

    Comment by dilbert36 — August 16, 2007 #

  225. lol dilbert about playing suduko with the bots

    Comment by John — August 16, 2007 #

  226. Yes, room listing is a great problem, too….

    Comment by Winstar — August 16, 2007 #

  227. I seem to get into the same room..whenever I switch….wonder why?

    Comment by Kandi — August 16, 2007 #

  228. yes all of these thousands of cam bots have the same tag (user info) which means all of these bots are ran off the same unknown room filler program and it’s probably a one man operation. yahoo now is the time to find this person who is destroying almost every single room and take major legal action. i dont care how smart this person filling the rooms is when you do something this damaging to yahoo beleive me they will use every resource to find you and you so good luck whoever you are.

    Comment by now is the time yahoo — August 16, 2007 #

  229. Well all you new roomies in this Bog I just dled the newer version of messenger and it wont let me in any room now or is this yahoo totally down now ??

    Someone please responded back to me ????

    Comment by Julianna — August 16, 2007 #

  230. All Fight rooms and Politics rooms are locked up. Yahoo chat servers are under siege by EU hackers and botters on B band connections from cluster servers. Will yahoo do anything to improve security??

    Comment by BushBukkake — August 16, 2007 #

  231. Ok so here we go… For all of us that are dedicated to yahoo, who are lifers so to speak on yahoo this does blow… But if yahoo is dead serious about fixing all the booters n the bots shouldn’t we have just a tad more patience for them… I know this has been goin on for a while and it is annoyin and a pain lol but anyways shouldn’t we give them just a tad bit of slack… Yes you’ve got ur person or person’s who want the bots n the booters in the rooms because thats how their being payed and their prob tryin to figure out how to break yahoo’s new servers and yahoo’s prob tryin to keep that from happening… In the mean time until this is all resolved try doin a conference room where u can have all of ur friends come in and everyone knows everyone (like cheers, hey norm) haha… Anyways I have faith that yahoo will get it together eventually, in the meantime have patience n just relax and have fun with what u can…

    Someone made a comment earlier in the post about how msn use to have room hosts where u could go n report a complaint too… Anyone here remember the Excite Chat (talk about a fun chat site) in the old days lol… They use to do that too n it worked for a while… But it no longer exists that I know of because I’ve become a yahoo fan lol… Anyways that might be a good idea with yahoo that way there is someone in the chat rooms n they can see what exactly is goin on… Ya never know if u give yahoo a good suggestion they might actually take that into account n maybe think about doin it n if not then hopefully their new servers better be nonpenetratable cause someone will hack into it and figure out how their servers codes and stuff is n we’ll have probs again… Thats the problem with anything thats internet related, you always have some idiot to ruin everyone else’s fun (thats life) lol… Anwyays give yahoo a chance, have patience n have faith n make a conference room if u need to… I’m sure yahoo will get this straightened out eventually… WE BELIEVE IN YOU YAHOO… Don’t let ur devoted users down… /:D\

    Comment by Are we haveing fun yet — August 16, 2007 #

  232. well this is my new chat room right here since the names in my local room dont talk back to me i cant help but feel negative towards yahoo since they play hide n seek with me. Yahoo should either shut chat down and fix it or shut it down for good!!! Not say we’re updating sort of!

    Yahoo has loads of employees i means 1000’s and only a dozen work in the chat dept! thats saying alot for where yahoo’s prioritys are …. we aint at the top of yahoos fix list people!!!!>-

    Comment by Yahoon — August 16, 2007 #

  233. New servers have been released by yahoo which dont lag. They are fast. This is the EXACT reason why there are thousands more porn bots in chatrooms. Bots are automated so they constantly keep trying to get into chat unlike YOU, therefore now theyre succeeding most of the time. ALL the room fillers, booters, mass iggies WORK that have worked for months. If you try logging bots into Windows:2 a booter might not work, but Windows:2::1600326595 the full extension will log all the bot programs immediately. However, now is the time for Yahoo to release security measures like CAPTCHA that will reduce thousands bots to 1 per room instead. Maybe some other security measures will be seen that we haven’t talked about………so dont worry about the bots right now, just enjoy fast chat, regardless of what room you land in due to massive porn bots.

    Comment by nick — August 16, 2007 #

  234. You have a good point there Yahoon… Maybe Yahoo should shut down chat until they can get this resolved and that means kicking EVERYBODY out bots, booters everyone n when they get it back up we’ll see if they did get it improved cause if where lucky there shouldn’t be anymore of those so annoying bots… And TG if yahoo is getting rid of the booters cause there’s a few out there that I won’t miss seeing lmao

    I like yahoo, I’ve enjoyed gettin off work n not being able to sleep comin on chat and meeting all kinds of peeps from all over the world… It is a fun place to just come and hang out and have fun n not worry about the r/l for a while… Relaxing

    P.S. So nice to be able to talk to real people even if it is a blog ROFLMFAO

    Comment by Are we haveing fun yet — August 16, 2007 #

  235. O yes its fast super fast to bad its dropping chat packets no one can see peoples text etc chat is worse than EVER what room you been in lmfao because the ones i have everyone is having the same problems

    1 Your REAL age is visible this will open the door for info cracking make it MUCH easier BAD

    2 You can type ANY amount of text and not get banned (room scrollers will be back!!!! BAD BAD BAD)

    3 Some people are not visible on voice or the room list

    4 90% of the time you freeze chat freezes like your stuck in the frigin matrix ffs

    O but we can get in chat so all is well just to bad its worse than ever LOL

    Comment by Karl — August 16, 2007 #

  236. nick your post just proves you know absolutly nothing about booters,room lockers and how porn bots work.

    Comment by what a stupid person — August 16, 2007 #

  237. Ok let me think yes since now the new alpha servers you do not get the ”this room is full please join another message” you automatically join the next room so room fillers,mass iggies etc will hit more than one room right? lmao o dear o dear what have you done yahoo somone will get the hump in say windows 1 log in 500 bots
    and fill up windows 1
    2
    3
    4
    5
    Although im not that familiar with the new alpha servers but i know it does that it will be MAYHEM good lord yahoo you are idiots

    Comment by Karl — August 16, 2007 #

  238. karl stop using c-mode and gawd as those chat client features have been disabled by yahoo. use regular messenger. btw there are alot of ytk pro/ymlite staff and users posting false statements undercover in here.

    Comment by what a stupid person — August 16, 2007 #

  239. I do use messenger i don’t use any clients anymore

    Comment by Karl — August 16, 2007 #

  240. Yea i know they do someone who makes cash off yahoo needs a frigin life thats all im saying lmfaoo anyways im going to bed some of us have work :l

    Comment by Karl — August 16, 2007 #

  241. yea it’s enough. yahoo i have a request. just shut yahoo chat down. to many whiners in here making shit up. like ytk pro staff members using undercover names. face it yahoo has and will keep chat companions out of business so i suggest you find a new job and get over it. when yahoo is fixed up and ready to go throw a 30 dollar a month charge in to teach these complainers a lesson.

    Comment by what a stupid person — August 16, 2007 #

  242. Hey my only whinning cryin complaint is is when I do log into a chat room I don’t get voice n I enjoy that because I love listening to all the different accents from all over the world… Some are pretty damn sexy lmao… Anyways yahoo will get it together… Patience

    Comment by Are we haveing fun yet — August 16, 2007 #

  243. Oh sorry I did make the comments about the bots and booters so I guess I was complaining then… Sorry my bad but seriously won’t it be nice when their gone… lol ok enough of my complaining

    Comment by Are we haveing fun yet — August 16, 2007 #

  244. I’d pay whatever they set just to have a chat free room with none of the bots n booter problems… I’d def hav np paying if it was quarenteed…

    Comment by Are we haveing fun yet — August 16, 2007 #

  245. well.. since last night I have iggied about 12,000 bots…..and Yahoo said they did maintenance? LoL….now ain’t that a joke! Seems every room you get bounced around to is almost all bots except on the rare occasion when there might be a couple of real people in there. I would guess most of the rooms, especially the Political Lobby’s, Washington Watch, and Romance By location rooms have been taken over by the bots. No matter which of these rooms you go into they are about 99% bots. For those who have Yazak, you can create your own room on a Yazak server…won’t have voice but it will be bot free and lag free. About the only way to chat now since Yahoo is so messed up and nothing but bots no matter which Yahoo Room you go to. Still praying for the day Yahoo gets their act together and straightens the whole damn mess out and get it working right and eliminate at least 90% of the bots.

    Comment by John — August 16, 2007 #

  246. nick your post just proves you know absolutly nothing about booters,room lockers and how porn bots work.

    Comment by what a stupid person — August 16, 2007 #

    LOL…..there is nothing to know about it…..it works just like your name that u sign into chat with. What is a room locker man? Mass iggy can be used as a room locker – completely irrelevant. and yes i know booters can be used outside of a room to send packets onto that room’s user ( let me save you another response to my post). wanna see source code to Phantom vc, easy voice, stb, room destroy progz? They are everywhere on the net. THIS IS ALL LAME and nothing to be proud of…now go make another post about something that people laugh at…like what do you know about playing video games and smoking pot. LOL

    Comment by nick — August 16, 2007 #

  247. I’m a chat room spammer bot and quite frankly I’m getting pretty sick of Yahoo Chat not working right and all of the competition out there honing in on my spam money.

    Yahoo, if you don’t fix the chat rooms soon I’m going to start spamming in some other chat site! Then you’ll be sorry!!

    Comment by unhappy spammer bot — August 16, 2007 #

  248. nick wrote ALL the room fillers, booters, mass iggies WORK and have for months.
    well your wrong nick. room fillers,booters,and mass iggy programs have worked for years not just a few months.
    about all room fillers working: please name one because as of today no room filler will log bots in a room. not room destroy, not room locker (made by y!mlite authur). basicly all room lockers are no longer working except for the mystery one that is currently locking up 90 percent of yahoo chat rooms. take a guess who created that prog lol. i will give you a hint the same staff that makes money off protecting chat users from booters,spam etc.. yea they dont want yahoo to be stable because then they will be out of a job.

    Comment by what a stupid person — August 16, 2007 #

  249. Alright, i still remember a booter that worked since 99 called ” mudvyane” when i first joined chat. I KNOW these programs worked for years, but i was talking about the exact versions which usually have a life span of 4-6 months. If lucky, a year. I told you before the room extension numbers will make a difference if these programs work now or not. I tested them. Atleast 4 of them work and i havent even bothered to test any others.

    Comment by nick — August 16, 2007 #

  250. well I have a kinda sorta good post here
    it seems the conference rooms are working kinda sorta well… for now
    Kyewords : for now lol

    Comment by Julianna — August 16, 2007 #

  251. cc4 been open im runing y tunnel take care of bots! but get a lag, hope thisi s fixed soon so everyone go back to happy chat life !!!!

    Comment by fefe — August 16, 2007 #

  252. Hello,
    I don’t really understand this crap. First thing Why make it so when one room is full u go to another that is stupid we all have a room that we go to that has people we are close to that hang out in there, Its like our own little Bar. I know well make a conference, well that blows we want new people to join our bar or it gets old and everyone fights anyway. I say Yahoo do this, Take the Bots, booters, voice progies, laggers, flooders, mass iggies, and throw them out the window. Leave everything left the way it is. leave the room list alone allow us to make a choice as to what Public room we would like to join and let us get on with our Yahoo Lives.. I have been here for 13 years and this is the stupidest crap iv EVER seen. what are u thinking.. If I cant get into a room to talk to my friends and new people then what is the point I might as well go back to Mirc or pIrch or some crap like that.

    Comment by SeD — August 16, 2007 #

  253. Have you noticed that all the bots have no profile, if you try to see the profiles it results in an error…

    Comment by Winstar — August 16, 2007 #

  254. well SeD I take it the people that work on the chat room servers dont chat themselves so they have no idea what its like to get to know people on here and to like a certain number room where you can do things that most also like to do.

    But any how the conference is a good thing for now for our regs. but I’m sure we will get tired of it, we are only human and your right its nice to have new people come in the room to joke around with them and make them do silly things to become a reg. but dont tell yahoo that we do things to have them become a reg. (mums the word) lol

    Anyways Im posting to much on here this is addictive oh gosh when yahoo is truly fixed what will I do I’ll have to come here to get a messenger blog fix for no reason lol.

    I THINK I NEED HELP HERE!!!

    Comment by Julianna — August 16, 2007 #

  255. well isn’t this ironic yahoo chat falls apart so everyone comes here and blogs yahoo careful you might overload this and crash it as well

    Comment by fido — August 16, 2007 #

  256. another promise was made about fixing chat and we waited patently for it

    well nothing got fixed kind of made it worse

    Comment by danmark2002 — August 16, 2007 #

  257. What U guys fail to understand is that Yahoo is CURRENTLY working on the servers.. there not done thats why it is still messed up and people can get into anyroom and what not… what im saying is what I have been hearing on other blogs and in some of the yahoo help rooms is the final product will be u will not have the option of entering a certin room. and that sucks.. ROYALY Im sorry I cant spell for crap and I dont have the patience for spell check. Im sure u can get the General Idea. and this is a wild shot but according to my sources yahoo is doing this too the rooms to reduce lagg… well It was fine befor u messed with it.. what the hell did u do get Freakin Vista or somthing??? I mean come one people.. Use ur brains…

    Comment by SeD — August 16, 2007 #

  258. Again, what I think should be done is Bring back the Chat2 protocall and LIMIT the amout of accounts that can be logged in to at least 2 the Chat2 proto was Veary hard to boot and if a person can olny log 2 names at one time on one Ip address it will be dang near impossable to boot and it will eliminate the porn bots in the room. thats it.. nothing eles..thats really as far as I can see all that needs to be done.

    Comment by SeD — August 16, 2007 #

  259. I get it now. You people are all completely insane. Yahoo is not real. What did people do before there were chat rooms? They certainly were not busy studying spelling and grammar, as your postings can attest. And the social skills of most chatters on ANY server is a testimate to the deteriorating ability of school children to successfully face adulthood. Yahoo!’s protocol is hardly mentioned in this thread, yet it is the one and only thing that is central to the issue. If you take the time to understand what occurs during the login process contolled by the nebulous ‘voice chat protocol’ you will understand why I am certain Yahoo! has been doing this all along intentionally. Otherwise I will continue to read your frantic lemming ramblings with pity and amusement.
    Apollonian King (The)

    Comment by Apollonian King — August 16, 2007 #

  260. WHY BOTHER! Why not just shut the chatrooms down, that will solve the bot problem as well as the security issues being in chat causes! It has been apparent for way too long that no “administration” or “baby-sitting” goes on. The bots are out of control, and even 3rd party apps are overwhelmed by the spam traffic. NOW you cannot select the room you choose to chat in????? The idea that you can only select a topic and then flow into whichever room you are thrown into will reduce the sense of “community ” that comes from seeing the people you enjoy being around. People do gravitate toward those they like, generally. (except the chatroom toughs who harass anyone for fun) Deny me my friends and why should I bother to use your services!

    Comment by Julie — August 16, 2007 #

  261. I’m wondering why. Yahoo just sits there and let’s their forum post be filled with spam? they say what age range are you in 13-17 (then allow porn bots and spammer’s) solicite underage children (that’s a law suite right there)

    And then..The Chat rooms fill up with People who shouldn’t Even be allowed to be here. And Spam and Hack and Boot And whatever they please. Right while we are sitting here in the comfort of our home.

    Why does a Billion Dollar Company Not hire Worker’s who actually work and know their job? It seems that Yahoo is clueless and Anyone who says they are not. HA! FIX THE PROBLEM THEN! AND STOP COMPLAINING! I’m sick of it.

    Oh yahoo is great. Yahoo is this and that. I’ve been a member of yahoo for at least 10 years now. And remember when USER ROOMS EXISTED! and half the idiots stayed there! Yahoo has went downhill. I know they can figure it. If they wouldn’t change it. They should just wipe the slate clean of everyone and everybody and that would solve alot of issue’s. There can be something done and it doesn’t look that difficult. And as for TRACING IP ADDRESSES? if they did? ANDDDDDDDDDD PAID ATTENTION!!!!!!!! to booting and hacking “REPORT ABUSE” issue’s WHY ARE WE STILL HAVING THESE ISSUE”S?

    I went into a “regular” room I always go into. Within 1 months. Nothing but spam, bots, hackers and booters, No one goes there anymore. All the contacts I have made are pissed? WHY?……I’m not repeating myself. Yahoo doesn’t really listen anymore and by God I don’t think it cares.

    Comment by Cher — August 16, 2007 #

  262. Yahoo! does not see it’s chat population as a viable source of income. It is best to get it out of your system because it is never going to change. They will never see the ongoing mystery and drama that unfolds in their own chat communities as anything other than successfully deployed advertisments per user (or something like that, sorry about the patronizing diatribe). They will never submit to the truth about their own culpability for affecting and manipulating the lives of thousands of very real people, rich with emotion and intellect. They will never understand the fragile and cohesive nature of the long-term chatters and their ability to connect in so many ways with each other. They will never read this. My heart goes out to all of you that are being devastated by what amounts to a ‘Virtual Disaster’ for you and your online aquaintances. But I do not suggest a move to Paltalk since it is run by idiots as well. LOL

    Comment by Apollonian King — August 16, 2007 #

  263. There are alternatives to Yahoo Chat. Like AOL and the MySpace chat rooms. I refuse to use the crap called Paltalk and its adware/spyware.

    Comment by Ray — August 16, 2007 #

  264. I’m starting to remember why newsgroups were so popular before Instant Messengers began to rule our lives.

    Comment by Apollonian King — August 16, 2007 #

  265. Looks like Yahoo Chat was not working correctly when it was getting full with bots when you could join any room/lobby you want.

    Now, that it’s fixed, you can’t do it anymore. Though it’s understood that people who know each other want to hang out in the same room, we need to remember that there is no reservation system in a public forum like yahoo Chat. Wishing for it is like a bunch of teenagers asking to be seated together in a library. It’s a first-come, first-served system. The old system is not going to come back.

    Comment by loves_y_chat — August 16, 2007 #

  266. AOL is no better for sure, their Terms Of Service mantra is fairly arbitrarily and draconian enforced. People sit in rooms bragging about immunity, baiting people into disputes, then report them for abuse. Really, the age of internet chat is fading. It was a good time, but what have people really learned? At best, people have learned that there is no accountability to the internet community, therefore, any and all actions are acceptable, even those that would result in arrest in the real world, so go ahead and show your genitals in your unprotected profile pic, after all, its good for a laugh when a prude views it…. Since there is no accountability, and the net isnt real life, it is ok to be the rudest, crudest, obnoxious dimwit anyone could imagine, after all, they can just ignore you, except the one who has GOT to fight with you. The internet is both the best, and worst of the real world. Maybe it is best if internet chat dies, and we start making the most of our real geographic communities again. Hmm , on second thought, in my real community, I’d be approached with swords, torches & pitchforks, maybe this chat isnt so bad :-D

    Comment by Julie — August 16, 2007 #

  267. Right now, if you are using the new Yahoo! Messenger or an unnamed client that also starts with a Y and allows you to connect to the new Alpha Servers you can get into the Windows rooms at random. Go to Computers & Internet then join one of the Windows:x rooms. Don’t expect a great time since they are filled with spam bots and work intermittantly at best. Also, you people need to stop holding your breath unless you are underwater.

    Comment by Apollonian King — August 16, 2007 #

  268. Also the Pagan Rooms under Religion are working too. I wonder if Yahoo! is trying to trap us all…
    Just Kidding!!!

    Comment by Apollonian King — August 16, 2007 #

  269. Yaaaa there is some progress going on n like I said earlier today it’s goin to take time… I don’t know if everyone’s aware of how much time n work there is into doing new servers but it will happen… but here’s the question yahoo.. Once ur done n up working properly are we goin to have to deal with the bots or not… and especially with all the bots in yahoo now omg they are rediculuosly so… They are massive, … Ur devoted chatters would like to know if thats still gonna be a prob especially after all we’re goin thru now

    Comment by Are we haveing fun yet — August 17, 2007 #

  270. Apollonian king just admit it..you’re here to expand on the drama of yahoo updates, all your assumptions of yahoo mind control can go right with the illuminati talk. Some people here who wonder so much about booters – go download some if u have to – test them yourself once and u will find out everything u need to know. Stop speculating. Who cares if Politics lobbies r blocked? go to washington watch room 4 or 52…there will always be rooms opening up which have no porn bots. Its only about a week left until Yahoo puts Captcha on and even though programmers understand it, i dont think many of them can implement that into cracked code. On top of that, Yahoo has a plan to completely stop bots if Captcha fails to work for a long time. Pretty soon the only people left here posting will be ex-botters who will CRY and MOAN that their paid and free programs dont work anymore.

    Comment by nick — August 17, 2007 #

  271. Oh, the humanity!

    Comment by Jack Hammer — August 17, 2007 #

  272. I want to say Thank You to Yahoo. I’ve been chatting here for several years and I’ve had good days and bad days. I’ve had times where I couldn’t get into rooms because they were filled with bots and I’ve been booted more times than I could count, but I enjoy chatting on Yahoo.

    I’ve met new friends all over the world and I’ve even met some of them in person. I’m grateful to Yahoo for providing a FREE chat service like this. Many of us can’t afford to pay to chat. We have enough trouble just paying for our Internet service.

    My regular chat group has a temporary FREE chatroom on PalTalk, but we also keep messenger open and stay in whatever Yahoo room we can get into at the time. We’re still meeting new friends.

    PalTalk is okay as a backup, but they have flashing ads at the bottom of the room, spam the room with advertising every couple of minutes, hit you with advertising and update requests as soon as you log on, and it’s just generally annoying.

    I have 2 requests for Yahoo. Please keep your chat service free for those of us who have no extra money to spare, and PLEASE let us choose which room we want to be in.

    The problem with tossing us into any room that’s available is that we get thrown into rooms full of booters.

    Anyway, thanks for the free chat service and we’re waiting patiently…..not necessarily quietly, but patiently. lol

    Comment by Storm Watcher — August 17, 2007 #

  273. I am just wondering if anyone knows how long this ‘maintenance’ work is likely to last? I have managed to get into my regular Politics chatroom 3 times today – all by accident. I am ignoring every single bot I encounter in the hope that this might actually make space for humans. A few regulars from PL8 have managed to get there by accident too, when we are there voice works for a while then text for a while then nothing and you have to leave. All the while more and more bots arrive.
    Yahoo you provide a great free chat service which enables people from across the globe to chat to one another, dont let the bots and the booters drive this facility away. The cross cultural exchanges which occur in these chatrooms are aiding understanding and the exchange of ideas which would not otherwise be possible. This can only help the project of globalism in an information driven age.

    Comment by shaz_the_prole — August 17, 2007 #

  274. Ok….there are 100 rooms open for categories like washington lobby, politics lobby, military chat…the higher rooms indicate the porn bots are lacking in numbers and Politics lobby rooms 80-100 wont open up because they might be completely empty….but stayed on the list before. Ive found Politics lobby 74-79 to be open…..only 3 porn bots per room. Just login there and tell your friends about it, its never been a problem for my regular chatroom. Yahoo wont let them keep 100’s open like that for long, but the regular user doesnt care…Politics lobby 4 or Politics lobby 74. If by tomorrow porn bots fill up 1,000 room numbers. Login into the room Politics lobby:992, thats how simple it is. Remember to get the room key – get it from the list.

    Comment by nick — August 17, 2007 #

  275. Sorry – I am here to learn. What is a keyword? Last night I could not get yahoo to work either. Bur, yzak did eventually.

    Comment by n0vice — August 17, 2007 #

  276. I am relatively new to this. What is a keyword? Have never used one to enter a room. Yahoo didn’t work for me last nite, either. But, yazak did, eventually. Got into the room I wanted and even could listen to some music!! Amazing!!

    Comment by n0vice — August 17, 2007 #

  277. Well.

    Login IS faster, but still, when I get into a room I see no typing.

    This could be because I am on YM 5.5 because I prefer its simplicity over the newer ones.

    I suppose I’ll load the latest and see if the rooms work for me.

    Anyone else experiencing problems with chat today?

    Comment by Professor Wizard — August 17, 2007 #

  278. ok now few rooms are open , y! messenger , yazak and y!mlite can join chat rooms , yahelite still sucks , you can join chatrooms but that bring you in random rooms not specific one , like you try to inter persian chat:1 and it bring you to persian chat:random# and such

    must of rooms are still locked

    Comment by vahid — August 17, 2007 #

  279. When I began chatting nearly five years ago, I was instantly hooked. What a marvelous medium for conversation and connection between people who would never have met otherwise. Yahoo chat could be accessed from nearly everywhere on the planet and was. What a boon for improving understanding among people and cultures that were previously foreign to each other in personal ways. Rooms formed individual identities and communities flourished in them, benefiting from the presence of both veteran users who knew the ropes and newcomers eager to join in. It was ( and still may be ) the perfect opportunity for Yahoo! as a corporate entity to have a “gateway” product that would introduce potential consumers to their services, as well as to generate revenue from advertisers. How sad that it was not seen and supported as such.

    When I read that the entire tech staff comprises five people or less and, as I know that Yahoo! stock prices have taken hits recently because advertising revenues are down, I cannot help but wonder who did not realise that even simply doubling that number of staff, with all the attendant expenses for salary, benefits and payroll taxes, would have cost Yahoo! less than the lost revenues of even one dissatisfied major advertiser. Most people do not differentiate between what they have paid for directly and what is supported by other means, so most people who have experienced the negative aspects of Yahoo! chat, particularly of late, are going away saying to themselves ( and others ) “Yahoo! sucks.” Then, consider that consumer, when deciding between AT&T/Yahoo! DSL and RoadRunner, who already has the idea that Yahoo! cannot be counted on to support their services. Even more revenue is being lost in such ways. Someone in corporate strategies has been asleep at the switches for a while now.

    I love Yahoo! chat. It has opened doors to me, provided opportunities I could not have found elsewhere and truly enriched my life. I can be infinitely patient and have been, while waiting for these fixes. But, sadly, many others have not. Those established room communities languished and then disintegrated. The proliferation of spam bots, that seem impervious to all the troubles human users encounter, continues to grow seemingly exponentially. And, Yahoo! has failed to meet even the first challenge of acceptable customer service: the provision of timely and accurate information regarding ongoing problems and future improvements. There is a remedy, though who knows if it can redeem all that has been lost already: double, even treble, that tech staff, if only in the short term, solve the problems NOW and earn our restored faith in Yahoo! It would be wonderful to be able to once again say “Yahoo! rocks ! .”

    Comment by Elizabeth — August 17, 2007 #

  280. Thanks Elizabeth for the brief yahoo history lesson.
    now I know it all…

    If you think chat is addictive you orta wait and see how addictive this blog posting is.

    I’m already addicted to it here.
    I may never go into a chat room again lol

    Oh gosh!!! were is that Jack Hammer at …

    Comment by Julianna — August 17, 2007 #

  281. Good post Eliziith

    I’ve been a Yahoo Chatter since 1996,

    I’ve tried MSN, and AOL and many others and always ended up back on Yahoo.

    I travel with my job and Yahoo Chat has afforded me the ability to make many friends all over the US. Along with many working networking connections.

    It was GREAT through the early years, but I have to say the last couple of years it has gone downhill FAST.

    Yahoo chat has become nearly unusable on the best of days. With the attack of the bots both in the rooms and in PM land. I keep waiting for them to discover a way to flood Voice with their advertisements.

    Whenever I see a promotion for Yahoo anything, I always think of the condition of the Chat rooms and PM, which makes me avoid any other Yahoo service like the plague.

    I am sure there are others who have the same thoughts as I.

    In all honesty, I fully expect to see Yahoo eventually drop the chats all together, just like that have dropped the photos section and switched the Match section over to a pay service, but didn’t’ change anything else so those who paid to pay to stay, found the same phony adds they did when it was free.

    I used to use Yahoo IM on my phone, but I started getting so many BOT IM’s to my phone I eventually dropped that.

    It isn’t any wonder Yahoo stock prices have gradually and steadily dropped in value in the last couple of years.

    Oh yea – - I actually got into some rooms today and could chat with a couple of people… although the “Chat Error” message was as annoying as the bots – who of course were as active as ever.

    Comment by Professor Wizard — August 17, 2007 #

  282. Yahoo Chatrooms….especially New Jersey Three….REST IN PEACE….LOL
    P.S. Hire a twelve year old from amopng the booters etc to FIX your problems.

    Comment by Tommy Boy — August 17, 2007 #

  283. You know i have been coming into chat for a while now, and when i first started coming in, it was good… Then they had to screw around with it and mess it all up… Here is my thoughts on the whole damn thing…. IF THE DAMN THING AIN’T BROKE.. DON’T FIX IT!!! There ill shut up now lol

    Comment by whybother — August 17, 2007 #

  284. mmmm I used to lie about my age (I’m old) and now i can’t because they are now showing my real age on the chatroom list – why? why? WHY?

    Comment by leigh — August 17, 2007 #

  285. Last update chat may experience problems due to a maintainence upgrade on Augst 13th… Are these people at yahoo for real? They obviously have little to no regaurd for the users of their chat system. Screw me once shame on you, screw me twice shame on me… time to find an alternative. BTW, good job new CEO… lol

    Comment by JET — August 17, 2007 #

  286. I cannot believe that you still have people paying to advertise on Yahoo. Do you not need to show that actual LIVE breathing users are present and are seeing their ads? People are getting fed up with the problems with the chat rooms. Today, the rooms are 90% bots.. it’s a darn mess.
    Most people cannot see type written material in the rooms, only their own. People are leaving and rebooting and trying all sorts of stuff to just be able to chat ~ when in reality it is the lousy program itself. If someone is being paid good money to see that Yahoo chat works.. they are laughing all the way to the bank.
    I think they are sitting with their feet up on a desk… drinking a Starbucks coffee and eating a Big Mac and talking on the phone to their last Saturday night date.. and the powers that be are not in the know as to how glitchy and useless the chat rooms are these days and are dumb enough to still be paying these dudes.
    Maybe it is time for we users of the rooms to send off a few emails to the advertisers and let them know that their money is going down the tube. Bots are not users of retail therapy. Maybe if advertisers threaten to stop spending big bucks for exposure on Yahoo, the powers that be will get their heads out of their ..um…. clouds. lol

    Comment by Maggie — August 17, 2007 #

  287. My God U people act like a Bunch of 3 Year old ADHD kids.. have some patience just cause a FREE service isnt there when YOU want it to be there doesnt mean they dont care… at least there taking there time to make the right improvements and do a half decent job on the coding of the improvements so people like you JET don’t get errors every 5 Min. Come on people. like I said before they are CURRENTLY working on stuff. Would it be Better if they took chat down Completely while they made these changes?? no cause they u would automaticaly Think Yahoo is Gone for ever god.. Go take a pill

    Comment by SeD — August 17, 2007 #

  288. Maggie, If you would get Your Head out of the um…..Clouds u would understand that this is why yahoo is doing these Updates and its taking 2 freakin weeks….TO GET RID OF THE BOTS AND TO MAKE IT MORE STABLE AND ALL THAT CRAP my god… think people

    Comment by SeD — August 17, 2007 #

  289. Is it just me, or do some of the chat rooms appear to be VERY messed up? Example: I like to hit the Japan Anime rooms once in a while when I’m bored, and when I go to there, there’s at least 20 different rooms that when I enter them, are either the same rooms, filled with BOTs, or both. Perhaps it had something to do with the unusually high presence of BOTs yesterday. Anyway, this whole thing strikes me as very unusual, especially since some other chat rooms have shown this same odd behavior.

    Comment by Janus — August 17, 2007 #

  290. i think we all need counceling now.give them time i heard today there is a problem in web cams on yahoo a security thing mabe a code dont run cams yet!! more to fix for yahoo..

    Comment by fefe — August 17, 2007 #

  291. I tell u. Chat rooms are gonna be messed up Untill yahoo gets all Updates and Matience completed. while we (noticed I said we) are sitting here moaning and complaining yahoo is working on the bot problem and the booters and all that. I beleve the Reason rooms appear to be full of nothing but bots is because people have realized that yahoo us out of whack at the moment and have left, Taken a Vacation from chat until it returns to full power. therefor people with the bot programs and things just let there stuff run and run filling the rooms that are usally filled with about half people and half bots completly full of bots. Get it?

    Comment by SeD — August 17, 2007 #

  292. oops lol. Oh and by the way You will be able to get into the room you want Example my room is Minnesota:5 all Yahoo did is remove the This room is full. or Chat has taken to much time. and replaced it. Now Instead of recieving this message u will be sent to the room with the lowest number of people in it. and untill the bots are gone and not filling these rooms U will most likly not be able to get into the room of your perfrence.. like right now it took me to Minnesota:17 cause 1-17 are mostly full of bots. lol..

    Comment by SeD — August 17, 2007 #

  293. I’m hearing you SeD, but it’s not the bots persay that caught my attention here, it’s the very… how to word this… unusual problem that seems to be plauging certain Yahoo! chat rooms. I know Yahoo! has a bit to go yet, but this paticular problem seems to be very much out of the ordinary compaired to usual.

    Comment by Janus — August 17, 2007 #

  294. Well Janus like you said, yahoo has a bit to go and they olny have maybe a dozen or so people that work on chat related issues so just be patient and Im sure it will right it self.

    Comment by SeD — August 17, 2007 #

  295. The porn bots are the most destructive problem that yahoo has, every room you go to has 50% of people in any particular room and the percentage keeps going up. Yahoo has taken the approach to fix several things instead of looking at the main issue.

    Comment by Chris — August 17, 2007 #

  296. Chat has problems?….Do tell. They fixed games in Yahoo by typing in a password when u go to the game rooms. Why has this been so hard to do in chat? I also hope you are wrong about being sent to random rooms, as how will you meet up with the people you usually chat with? This isn’t NASA, and I’m sure there is a 13 year old out there than can fix Yahoo Chat.

    Comment by chattybaby — August 17, 2007 #

  297. did you notice my satire guys lighten up and sed i agree with you regarding the adhad all people can do is dribble on about the problem and don’t bother to read the other posts. I think i wrote a brilliant peice of humour and all everyone can do i belly ache. Geez! i busted my butt coming up with that to add a bit of entertianment and should get the Pulitzer prize for literature.
    What on earth did you guys do with your lives before yahoo? get out and the smell the roses for Pete’s sake!!!

    Comment by fido — August 17, 2007 #

  298. hehe i just read the disclaimer at the bottom of the page yahoo has an auto repsonder telling people what to do when they are abused in yhaoo chat. Yeah like they read any of them! and they threaten to remove any content that is off topic! Yahoo if you have time to read this and deem it inappropriate then read your complaints about the stalkers and pedophiles that have been coming into yahoo for the last 10 years tracking children and women down to molest rape and murder?

    Comment by fido — August 17, 2007 #

  299. I have noticed for the last 2 days that all chat rooms under the catagory of Voice have been compleatly shut down. i love to go into the fight rooms and have fun with my friends releasing stress from the day. Yes some people run bots and some people boot, but there is a solution for all that ifyou don’t like it …it’s simple, leave the room yahoo does offer so many other rooms to chose from ( thank You Yahoo) Enough with the bitchin and moaning, if you don’t like what you see, turn the computer off and go spend time with family or friends, get out side and breath fresh air. Everyone will be glad when yahoo finally finds that 15 year old that will show them how to properly opperate a computer, until then we all get a reminder of what life was like before yahoo.

    Comment by brenda duke — August 17, 2007 #

  300. Well, This is One Post were as Yahoo has Hundreds 101 Rooms I think to be exact. Yahoo chat Admins do not have the man power to monitor every single room and if they did we would all have to pay for the service and they wouldnt need the man power in the first place. theres Your difference. although I do wish I would not get a automated responce every time I email them, I get Put them on Ignore thats all I see.. well some times that doesnt work and right there forces More and more people to go get a booter or some sort of program to “retaliate” against some guy that wont leave them alone and when u put them on iggy you are forcing ur self to leave the mic completely because everytime you key up U feel the beep cause this person even though u have ignored them is still rambling about You. that is unfair. But then again Life isnt awayse fare but im not gonna leave my Room cause some jack off cant get his act right and decides to pick on some poor innocent. Therefor I get my Voice Dom Progams out and let them have it till THEY leave the room and can think about there problems befor they come back. I have issued an e-mail several times to make a few people on Yahoo Yahoo Trusties (kinda like they do on some online games) let these people room the rooms and chat and deal with problems Yahoo does not. give them the power to remove these trouble makers from the room but every time this is done make them right an e-mail log of the act and send it to some poor soul on Yahoo this way they cannot abuse there power.. but Noo thats will never happen I would gladly do it. and im shure alot of the people would also like to do it… Im sure this would be alot easier then letting booters rake havic on the yahoo servers and what not… I dont know I just wish they would be done with the Updates and I would stop looking at this Blog.

    Comment by SeD — August 17, 2007 #

  301. The Religion:1 community has pretty successfully migrated to Paltalk. If you get Paltalk and search for “Yahoo” or “refugees” you will see several other communities that have moved there. It is logical to expect better treatment from a company that makes its money from chat than from Yahoo. Yahoo is a telephone company and an advertising company, and chat is just a tiny throwaway thing to them.

    Comment by stoic_sam — August 17, 2007 #

  302. “Chat has problems?….Do tell. They fixed games in Yahoo by typing in a password when u go to the game rooms. Why has this been so hard to do in chat? I also hope you are wrong about being sent to random rooms, as how will you meet up with the people you usually chat with? This isn’t NASA, and I’m sure there is a 13 year old out there than can fix Yahoo Chat.

    Comment by chattybaby — August 17, 2007 #”

    bloody well put

    Comment by Yahoon — August 17, 2007 #

  303. Let me just tell you, bots aren’t made from bots. People make bots… all manually. (Manually as in automated programs, or just plain manually. )

    Comment by Leo — August 17, 2007 #

  304. Yahoo… u suck right now…

    Comment by Leo Williams — August 17, 2007 #

  305. Chat rooms as they are are unuseable. no matter what room you really want to go to it dumps you where ever. Since I only use it for coffee chat with friends from my area this makes it unuseable. Good answer could be “if it’s not broke dont fix it. “

    Comment by Ian MacKenzie — August 17, 2007 #

  306. just sitting here reading this blog ,drinking a cold one and listening to a old Porter Wagoner song called.The Rubber Room..now this is what i call real entertainment ..almost as good as a cheap date with a cheap woman

    Comment by dave — August 17, 2007 #

  307. Yahoo chat… at its worst!!! FIX IT!!! install a CAPTCHA like myspace does…… Do something!!

    Comment by upset — August 17, 2007 #

  308. Remember people, this is a FREE service. You have to put up with the ups and downs.

    Comment by fletchy — August 17, 2007 #

  309. hiya yahoo ppls: im here coz this is my new chat room: the messenger i dl doesnt allow me to see others font in the room , so ill hang here :least i see what ppls say in here: i want yahoo to die die die olololol: only coz they have annoyed me beyond belief!: now i want them to get hacked and shot and stripped of any fortunes : the clowns should have shut down yahoo chat altogther and informed us that they are gonna fix the pathetic thing it is!: but no they eventually drop a gay blog with some SORT OF announcment assclowns you are yahoo!!!!

    i know yahoo is a free service but its also a shit free service google is a free service and i dont find my self thinking “fvck i hate you Google”

    look i could be all wrong and yahoos miracle cured chat rooms is only minutes away(100000000 mins away) …
    SarahBacon and her friends bill and marie are prolly just about to roll out the big one and hit us with something tite ass…..oh!!! the alarm just went off!!! time for work !!!! what a nightmare >:)

    Comment by Yahoon — August 17, 2007 #

  310. This is Pointless, No one here gives a crap they all just think its a joke. Whatever I dont know why I bother. All you people do is whine. get a life. Yes I am sticking up for yahoo. There doing the best they can with the Reasources they have, if You think Yahoo should die then get off yahoo all togeather and stop promoting It. Go to Aol or something Find a hobby. I am supprised yahoo has not pulled the plug Years ago Because of All you whining little babys want everything right now handed on a silver platter. learn patience.

    Comment by SeD — August 17, 2007 #

  311. The Olny point I want to Get accrost to Sara Bacon is they are messing up the sence of community that yahoo once had By screwing with the Room lists. Let us Choose what room and number we want to Enter we know way to many people to just go into any old room.

    Comment by SeD — August 17, 2007 #

  312. Can you please tell me when all this mess will be resolved? Its cramping my lifestyle..lmaoooo No seriously speaking its become obvious for a long time that Yahoo is constantly having bugs in the chat system and we just deal with it as it comes along. I guess thats why we do cause its a free public program and why complain when its free.
    Please let me know when you think the chat rooms may come back to life and i can enter chat in a matter of seconds and the room I desire on first choice. Our chat community is goin crazy by the minute ….

    Comment by LuLu — August 17, 2007 #

  313. HI Sarah and yahoo! , I have been in yahoo chat now for 8 yrs , my daughter met her husband here and that was 7 yrs ago , I met my husband to be here over 4 yrs ago . Yahoo has been good for the most part , I have met alot of really wonderful people here . But as of late , its stopped being the place to come , whether to meet people , or be with friends , whom all have had to scatter because the rooms are being terrorized with booters and laggers , and adding insult to injury Yahoo decided to ” update ” and make things worse . When you took the ” user ” rooms away , alot of my friends from around the world had to be in general population rooms , grnated the reasons where in place to do something but what yahoo did was wrong . It put the ” pervs ” among those who in gen. pop. and then we all had to deal with the activities of perverse people . Now slowly you’ve decayed down to the current situation ….. Its been weeks since anyone could have a decent chat … people are forced to go to voice conference to chat or play music with friends … and then that doesn’t even work half the time … I say either ” close ” yahoo completely , put it out of our misery or get some people working there that know what they are doing …. I’ve gone to pal-talk , I don’t like it , they have room mod’s who boot you for the simplest things , and the most crazy of things , just like yahoo does . Pal Talk is for those who cannot run booters in yahoo for one reason or another , they go there to be able to have that control … so c’mon Sarah , Yahoo , and programmers … lets get it right or shut it down , and don’t make it make us wait an eternity … today is my Birthday , and for the last 7 years here I have gone to several rooms and celebrated with friends and even family … today , there will be no celebrations in yahoo for me

    Sincerely frustrated ~ shine ~

    Comment by shine — August 18, 2007 #

  314. You complain again. Again again again… Get over it. This stuff doesnt happen over night people. it takes time no matter how many people u have working on it.

    Comment by SeD — August 18, 2007 #

  315. Well… I can give my 10c too after all… I’ve benn wandering across Yahoo for years… things are getting worse, everybody has noticed it. Within the thousands of yahoo users and probably hundred times more bots this chatroom place is really unusable.

    What really leaves me speechless is why Yahoo did not realize yet how much cash they are losing. I mean… damn… forget a while about the people, think in terms of the service’s mantainance. You are spending thousands of dollars in connectivity and you let it go so easily? Do you really think leaving things go this way is even worth the effort? Try wiping out EVERYBODY from the chatrooms, I mean ALL… plan a mantainance, drop all the system and checkout how much bandwidth you save… then… reduce it by – make it 1000 and see how much cash you are losing. Leave things go this way you will be forced to drop the chatroom system because it will be rather too expensive to mantain.

    Or

    get your programmers to work on it and find a solution (as far as I read all the comments here, CAPTCHA looks to be a really good way to work on it) and for sure another good way (sorry Open Source developers) allow logons ONLY from Yahoo messenger programs (that would be something like 10 lines of code on messenger, and probably another 10 in chatroom service). I don’t think people here around will get pissed if you release a new version of yahoo messenger but you fix the issue… instead you might even be claimed as a company that starts running (again) a good free service (probably the best around the Internet) and your financial analysts will be able to start again calculating ROIs (that probably now are something like 10-years long).

    Have problems with staff? Do you really think there is noone around the yahoo community that can’t help you even *for free* as community support? There are plenty of good developers and system administrators aroun Yahoo, so why don’t you ask?

    Best regards

    En3pY

    Comment by En3pY — August 18, 2007 #

  316. chats workin on messenger with pms turned on. changes to room listings have changed and i dont see the usual bots in me local room … i give credit where its due now

    Comment by Yahoon — August 18, 2007 #

  317. chats workin on messenger with pms turned on. changes to room listings have changed and i dont see the usual bots in me local room … i give credit where its due now

    Comment by Yahoo

    Are you blind do you need an eye test chat has never been so bad wtf are you talking about LMFAO

    Comment by omg — August 18, 2007 #

  318. ok last night i went into my regular room cc4 wow i stayed for ever wasnt bounced around , yahoo is gettting it together. sararh things are looking good at your end!!! justa little more time for yahoo workers to fix this a liitle more paitents at our end, still se the bots but havent we before? i dont think all this is about chat sarha thisi s about keeping freinds caring about each other,means of letting pple know they are ok, my grandmother passed a away a few years back and i brought her to chat she was 84 years old to talk on mic with my uncle,the tears from my family seeing and know she talked to him before she died will be a memory we will never forget thank you yahoo!!

    Comment by fefe — August 18, 2007 #

  319. shine…you are mistaken if you think people going to Pal Talk are people who can’t boot in Yahoo. I went to Pal Talk because I couldn’t get into any room on Yahoo and alot of the people I chat with went to Pal Talk because of how messed up Yahoo is. So quit assuming booters are going to Pal Talk to have control when maybe only a small percentage of people going from Yahoo to Pal Talk are booters or control freaks. I will admit that some room admin in Pal Talk will boot you out for the simplest things so you need to find a room with your buddies in it which will reduce that problem. I go to the political chat rooms on Pal Talk and try to pick the rooms where most of my chat buddies are who are not likely to bounce me out of the room…..my suggestion is to avoid Arwen’s Room on Pal Talk….been in there a couple of times and they will bounce you out for something as simple as not agreeing with them or saying something that contradicts them. There is no perfect chat program so you are going to have to take the bad with the good and right now Pal Talk is one of the better options since Yahoo is so screwed up. Until Yahoo gets chat working again I will have to stay with Pal Talk so I can chat with my friends and that.

    Comment by John — August 18, 2007 #

  320. yahoos workin doo

    Comment by Yahoon — August 18, 2007 #

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    Comment by dsjhge — August 18, 2007 #

  322. Maybe with this updates u remenber to add portugal chat rooms it will be greatif yahoo add portugal with chat rooms

    Comment by revolutions — August 18, 2007 #

  323. AND who said chat was working come here lemme slap ya!!

    Comment by unknown — August 18, 2007 #

  324. oops its stopped again i love you yahoo and sarah

    Comment by Yahoon — August 18, 2007 #

  325. i cant find my PEEPS~!!! i click room 1 i go to 12 or 9 or 7 anything but what i want …will this be the NORM if it is im done with this BS they call CHAT why even have a ROOM SELECTOR if its gonna takes us where we fukn dont wanna go thats right yahell just let the spammers an booters dictate how YALL run this shiat ..not by the CHATTERS that have been chatting on yahoo IN THE SAME ROOM for 8 fukn YRS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GAWD!

    Comment by unknown — August 18, 2007 #

  326. sarah will live up to yahoo name!!! shes been working hard not only her but all yahoo employes thank you sarah!!

    Comment by fefe — August 18, 2007 #

  327. I dont get it yahoo was suppose to be fixing chat but theres NOTHING but bots WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY wtf is going on somebody tell us something!!!the wasy the rooms work now where u click a room it takes u to the next room that isnt FULL that would WORK IF IT WASNT FOR 50000 BOTS TAKING UP THE ROOMS WTH this is ridiculos

    Comment by unknown — August 18, 2007 #

  328. Well all I can say is that sitting in a chat help room most the day yesterday I have learned a lot.

    Yahoo to me seems to be new in everything, so to me its like when you reformat your pc it takes time to put everything back on and have it set up like you did before or almost like you did. So to me its called patience.

    I know other chat clients are being updated these people are workin as fast as they can to get their clients up and running.. So all I can say is count to ten when you get frustrated like I have in the last few days and think its only going to get better from now with all the new servers…

    And I take it that Ytunnel is going to be updated to run with yahoo messenger cause I know it wont let me see post if I use it in the room so I’m having to not log on it.

    But I have hope they will get it up and going soon also and can get back to some normal chatting.

    Comment by Julianna — August 18, 2007 #

  329. I think that bots are put into chatrooms by yahoo to test the stability of servers with full rooms

    Comment by Winstar — August 18, 2007 #

  330. winstar maybe but 50000 bots …and they keep coming…after u ignore them ALL they are still entering rooms,.,….i would like to find the bastard @@!!!!

    Comment by unknown — August 18, 2007 #

  331. Happy Birthday Shine!
    I am seeing lots of improvements in yahoo this morning compared to yesterday! Yes there are still lots of problems but YahElite put out an update that handles some of them.

    Comment by pivotal.points — August 18, 2007 #

  332. How much longer will the chat program be having issues. (ie: click on one room but get sent to another, typing in room but nobody sees you….)

    Comment by Kristie — August 18, 2007 #

  333. when someone is PM Bombing your chat name and yahoo detects that your connection isn’t responsive Yahoo terminates the connection, Would it not make sense to examine the messages in the queue and to see if the bulk of the undeliverable messages are from 1 user.. or one identifiable group of usernames and then disconnect the agressor, rather than the victim?

    Comment by deep (again) — August 18, 2007 #

  334. Well, chat is half working. Some rooms are missing from the room lists. YahElite works but takes you to different rooms. Ymlite works as well, but does the same thing. Yazak doesn’t seem to work for me at all. Yahoo Messenger works but was slow at entering rooms.

    Comment by aggrevated — August 18, 2007 #

  335. Simple, start writing the advertisers, tell em that you dont hang around the chat rooms long enough to read their banner adds, since its all so pointless. Saddly, yahoo banners most of its own adds there too, but if Ebay dumped them they might notice and do something.

    Comment by Johnny — August 18, 2007 #

  336. The way i see it you should be happy if you can do as much as enter a chat room. Right now, as a Mac OS X user, I can’t get in at all. Even through a 3rd party client like Adium I can not do so. Is it just a non PC-Yahoo user thing or are the servers chat servers completely down?

    Comment by Todd — August 18, 2007 #

  337. well i don’t know what yahoo are doing but those hwo knocked yazak better take notice i can get into the room i want and there is text and voice. Warning all the bots are webcam bots any name you see with a wbcam put it on ignore they’re what is causing the problem. What ever you do do not click on them and try to look at the webcams yahoo is warning people they are dangerous and could harm your computer yay for yazak

    Comment by fido — August 18, 2007 #

  338. Julianna, I do not like to reveal my whereabouts. I like to keep a low profile…har har…(no pun intended).

    Comment by Jack Hammer — August 18, 2007 #

  339. well yahoo sucks and it s new rules are even worse ..if you want to know the truth about yahoo go read freecreed.com you’ll know the skinny of yahoo…any ways forget pall talk try inspeek.com the monitors are US…

    Comment by c albano — August 18, 2007 #

  340. =)) You guys are tooooo funny… This post is gettin just as funny and entertaining as the rooms… Everyone tellin everyone else to stfu n no one knows what anyone’s talking about haha… Welp I guess if u can’t find a way of communicatin one way find another… Keep the spirits up, eventually Yahoo will be fixed and hopefully (sends a lil prayer) be 100% better and maybe even more people will want to start using yahoo and want to leave the other chat sites (if I was Yahoo I’d be about doing that) but thats me… Anyways carry on everybody this is entertaining and does keep some of the frustration down >:D

    Comment by Are we haveing fun yet — August 18, 2007 #

  341. When will chat be opened again I am having withdrawls here. LOL I remember when all I had to do was click the room I wanted and be right there …. so much for progress huh. Still love to YAHOO!!.

    Comment by John — August 18, 2007 #

  342. Thank YOU Pivotal.Points for the Birthday greetings … waves and wishes you a great day

    John , I may be mistaken about the control freaks of yahoo going to Pal Talk but I don’t think so , and its been my personal experience going over there its not a place I would rather be , I use pink font , always , stubborn as that sounds , its a matter of principle actually , I have been bounced out for using the pink that Pal Talk provides , had I been asked to not use it instead of just being told change it or else I would be kicked I would have obliged , now thats not just one or two rooms , its been my personal notation that its been more like 7 of 10 rooms , the other 3 rooms didn’t hold my interest . I gave up going there , its stupid to go to a room and be kicked for using ” pink ” font . I had sound issues as well , and having been a paying customer , my cam and the cams of others were of no use at times , I would have to enter and leave at times to even get sound . Yahoo was the best chat at one time . Once I was bounced because I didn’t read the rooms rules from their website and post back a key word at the end of the site into the room , and second mod in charge was from yahoo , a 50’s room I used to go to …. I will wait out Yahoo , Pal talk is not better , just different . And if Yahoo goes down , then so be it , I have hope that it will get fixed but if it doesn’t then maybe we will all find something else to do and those who like to ” control ” things in yahoo will all go to where they belong in the real world ( winks and smiles ) … I for one hope like hell they figure out how to control those who try and control all of us in the chatrooms whom go to have decent chat and play music , I am tired of being booted … and as for the porn bots … just click em if you’re not into such , I do , thats why we have iggy buttons ….

    Enough said , off to eat my Birthday Dinner and have Cake and Ice Cream

    God Bless all ~ shine ~

    Comment by shine — August 18, 2007 #

  343. Seems like you could work a little bit faster. Seriously, what are you guys even thinking? Yahoo! Chat is completely ridiculous now, and Yahoo! itself has been responsible for this phenomenal downward spiral.

    Get your act together, make user created rooms available again, and for God’s sake, be smarter than the people creating bots for one damn time.

    Comment by Brad — August 18, 2007 #

  344. Looks like yahoo could at least let us know something. I have been a yahoo member for about 5 years now and never have i seen it so messed up, I think it really sucks not being able to choose your own room.Rumors are flying around that this is the new yahoo. If so I am done with yahoo for good.

    Comment by Tony — August 18, 2007 #

  345. Good grief! Nobody! I repeat, NOBODY can make any program 100% compatible with every operating system and every computer configuration worldwide, so why keep screaming about Yahoo. They’re giving us FREE chat. They’re trying to make us all happy. Give them a break and give them some time. It WILL happen. It always has. Yahoo always gets things working again.

    Comment by Storm Watcher — August 18, 2007 #

  346. Okay, I get it that YAHELL is trying to fix the bugs but really????? How much longer do we have to deal with this??? Come on surely YAHELL can get their act together after all this time and fix the crap they need to fix. Free service or not this is ridiculous! Yahell should be giving it’s users an update more than that little love note from Sarah Bacon dated Aug. 9th.

    Comment by LaLa — August 18, 2007 #

  347. Hey don’t be talking about Sarah like that LaLa. You mess with Sarah Bacon, and you will find yourself in the frying pan!

    Comment by Jack Hammer — August 18, 2007 #

  348. God help us all if Sarah Bacon decided to come after us.

    If Yahoo! cared about anything, they’d have fixed this problem a long time ago. It’s not like this is brand new. It’s just been gradually getting worse and worse until now I think they realize, “Oh shit, we really messed up.”

    I really do not understand what the deal is. Put moderators in every room if you have to. That may anger some people, but most of us really don’t have anything to hide. We aren’t “threatened by shadows at night… and exposed in the light.”

    And yeah, I agree with LaLa… give us more than your little post-it note entry reminding us all how little concerned you are with the situation, Yahoo!. Bonus.

    Comment by Brad — August 18, 2007 #

  349. “Chat moderators” are an asinine idea. Power tripping soccer moms who kick you if you dare speak ill of Desperate Housewives or make fun of them for their sweatshirts with kittens on them should not be given anything resembling authority.

    Charging for Yahoo’s chat services, on the surface, isn’t a bad idea. It would tend to keep out lots of the trailer trash and riff raff, but at the same time it would probably keep out some of the college kids, and college kids are typically some of the more interesting people in the more interesting rooms. If they charged, I’d have to try it for a little while to see what kind of chatter continued to hang around, and then decide. 30 or 40 a month should be enough to keep out most of the real trash, although I’m afraid it might also keep out some of the (already endangered) clever chatters.

    Comment by Sebastian — August 18, 2007 #

  350. Chat is still screwed up entirely you try to go to whichever place room 4 it takes you to room 34! this is getting ridiculous.

    Comment by Emilie — August 18, 2007 #

  351. To Jack Hammer… IF YAHELL and Sarah Bacon wants to boot me outta YAHELL forever then so be it. Bring it. Been in the rooms for nearly 5 years and has seen enough YAHELL boo boo’s as it is. The fact is YAHELL sux right now and don’t be threatening me w/a good time FOOL~! Fix it and make the YAHELL messenger users happy campers.. It’s been going on for too long. And Kudos to Brad.. It’s not like this is the first time that YAHELL has had issues..This has been slowly taking control over the rooms and now this is the ultimate OH POOP now we have a problem issue for YAHELL and NOW they’re just getting a clue. COME ON! Just fix it soon PLEASE!

    Comment by LaLa — August 18, 2007 #

  352. C’mon yahoo. What is going on with your chat rooms. It is bad enought that you guys allow the bots in at all but now when I try to enter a room I get sent to another room that is nothing but BOTS. Yahoo please fix your errors now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by patti — August 18, 2007 #

  353. It would be nice to have an update from Sarah about what they are doing….the last one was Aug 9…. you would think we would want another update to know what is going on instead of being left in the dark and jumping to all kinds of conclusions like Yahoo is going to shut down chat, Yahoo is testing the servers, and stuff like that. I am not particularly fond of Pal Talk but right now it is the best thing until Yahoo ever gets their issues straightened out.

    Comment by John — August 18, 2007 #

  354. Well another night in hell with no chat to speak of other than the posts of one of the many sites guiding one to spew anger and resentment for not having this issue fixed already . Yahoo , shame on you , at least have the decency to come let the public know whats going on , It doesn’t take but 5 minutes to post a little note over there in your blog to update us on whats happening or what isn’t going to happen . When there is silence , rumors run amuck and people assume the worst or make up even worse . Its only fair that we as loyal users/customers of Yahoo think that you’d all be courteous enough to at least have a press release , even if its just in your 360’s , to let us know whats about to happen , especially since the ” update ” is long overdue . And as for all you goofy people cussing , not proofreading your notes before you send them , and not caring how your notes look , shame on you . How can you expect anyone to take this seriously as a complaint from you … good luck yahoo on coming back from this ” issue ” …. and fyi PAL TALK , people , are just as nuts as those in yahoo with those bouncing admin. … this girl will wait to see what Yahoo! does

    Comment by yummybaby — August 18, 2007 #

  355. FACT: If it has tits, balls, or is made by someone that does, sooner or later its going to screw up. Yahoo chat definitely fits into this category. It never has been perfect and never will be.

    FACT: The yahoo chat system has been ignored for years. Except for minor patches and fixes here and there nothing has been done to keep it up to date.

    At the moment they SAY they are working on things but at my level in the food chain its hard to see any changes.
    I can only guess about what its like to make major changes to a system this size but I’m sure someone someplace has an estimated completion date. Thats something I think we would all like to know. I, for one, understand that this magic date would not be set in concrete but instead be based in achieving goals set along the way. As i understand it the first goal was to get the new servers running and that has been done. What I don’t know is how many goals or steps are there in this sequence yet to be done, 10? .. 100? … 1000? Each time they make a step forward it brings kinks into the system and the kinks have to be found and fixed before they can go to the next step. All of this is basic project management 101.
    To me the big question is, why are the keeping the lowly users in the dark? How long does it take to put one or two lines on this blog saying “We tried A and it worked so moving on to B” or “We tried A and it didn’t work so we are backing up to something different”.
    ANY clue as to how long its going to be would be appreciated.

    Comment by Old_Man — August 18, 2007 #

  356. There are Yahoo Refugee rooms now on Paltalk, entire Yahoo rooms move over to escape the insanity.. Latest is that no matter what Room you click on Yahoo throws you into a random room.
    Chatrooms are full with bots and ghosts, Ink is not showing in rooms or private text. Offline messages are not received….Fun, fun, fun…….will it ever end?

    Comment by wixen — August 19, 2007 #

  357. While things are being fixed, and I am sure its a tedious process, it would be nice to clear the empty names out of the chat rooms. Names that have no one there and are not porn bots either, this is preventing people from getting into rooms that do acutally work. I dont know how its done but I know for a fact it Can be done. I have seen it happen – wont say how as I dont want to get anyone in trouble there. This might placate a lot of people while we await the latest and greatest from yahoo. thank you.
    oh and by the way if a person doesnt like a chat client the answer is simple for you – dont use it. For those of us who do – what business is it of yours how we access chat ? I for one appreciate ALL the chat clients – as each and everyone make someone happy with their chat experience. If ya dont like it … dont use it and quit bellyaching about nonsense !

    Comment by toppy — August 19, 2007 #

  358. some one might need to find a plan to help fix the problem or form a site theirselves and make a new yahoo chat

    Comment by haney — August 19, 2007 #

  359. They really seem to have done this backwards. The FIRST step should have been to secure the old servers from bots by implementing the “security word” software, and seeing the effect that had. The Next step should have been upgrading the servers after eliminating the illegal advertising. Now we come to the last step, realizing they missed the boat on how important preserving the sub-communities of chat, while eliminating the excessive overflow of rooms formed by bogus bot names. This last step is a biggie, and could be a “deal or no deal” key to the program. Even TOPIC-Room1-5 as fixed and overflow added when needed would be better than the current proposal of one per topic with overflow created by need. I also realize the old servers are probably so compromised by bots & hacks that they probably wouldnt hold up to taking the security patches, but their current AlphaServer sysstem is NOT WORKABLE and needs to come offline!!!!

    Comment by Julie — August 19, 2007 #

  360. If you can see whats been happening on yahoo messenger .The same thing happened on aol and they shut down messenger service.
    I firmly believe the porn bots have ruined it . Sex is the number one money maker on the internet they are the ones taking up the bandwidth.
    Its a shame for all the loyal users of Yahoo Messenger but all good things come to a end

    Comment by paultech6 — August 19, 2007 #

  361. In case anyone hasn’t seen the notice, MSN is closing their chatrooms on October 15th, so it stands to reason that Yahoo is working to improve their chatrooms and add more rooms to handle the overflow when MSN shuts down. Give them a chance. Things will get better.

    Comment by Storm Watcher — August 19, 2007 #

  362. Storm Watcher,
    MSN has not had chat rooms in a couple years or so. They closed them long ago. They tried paid rooms before closing them rooms but that did not last long. You must have read an outdated online notice.

    Comment by StarGazer — August 19, 2007 #

  363. ummmm….is this it…could you at least reply saying whether this is the sum total of how its gonna be in future, or you’re still working on it… and omg…do we ever hope you’re still working on it……

    Comment by Pj — August 19, 2007 #

  364. Here’s what I found on creecreed.com

    Yahoo Messenger problems / Issues : since this recent change Aug 16 … : users receive a Chat Error on some posts … users are seeing messages that they are in a different room although they are not … the user list appears empty and fills as users enter … the /join command no longer works … yahoo has a random disconnect where the text stops and user list goes empty where a restart is required … users see their real age entering the room , this can not be changed … the room list may show all rooms with 50 users / this is wrong / try your room anyway … yahoo isn’t supporting YMSG v10 / v11 / v12 so many older versions messenger will not show text in the room … chat clients now allow caps in the ID and spaced and special letters in the ID … ASCII nicnames no longer show correctly in the rooms

    To get to the room of your choice use … YaZak … click the change room button and untic anti bounce / set the Make Start Room button your desired room / use the ‘ join room fast ‘ button … after you enter your room open the change room page and make sure your room is still listed as the Make Start Room … re-tic anti bounce … then close the change room with the red X … WATCH VIDEO HOW ” … select open or run / video downloads to desktop folder

    Missing text in yazak … do this … logout / change the YMSG version to 15 and make sure it’s on port 5050 .. relogin

    Yahoo is testing a new login service to stop bots in chat …. get a sneek peek at it …. HERE
    Proof that Yahoo reads freecreed.com? .. in quatations “(we know some of you have already snuck a peek) “… Yahoo! Messenger Blog

    Comment by dhrflfo — August 19, 2007 #

  365. Well you done did it,Fine job of Maintenance..78 Disabled Chat Rooms ALL PORN BOTS. This is an abomination in the eyes of the real disabled and the Lord. The most disgusting thing on the net. If one must have their Pornography there are plenty sites.And to use the Title Disabled(I guess they are in a sense)This could be very easily considered,harrassment,DISCRIMINATION to those of us who actually are,disabled..Oh Oh we are human and productive, like to get together with friends suffering from same problems, What a Concept. Thank You for you time catangel49ca

    Comment by Valerie A. Etheridge — August 19, 2007 #

  366. I wonder if something else is going on with Yahoo that they aren’t telling the public.Whatever the problem is it is obviously a BIG one.

    Comment by Tony — August 19, 2007 #

  367. To the yahoo gods. “Actions speak louder the words”. So far all we are seeing are words. PS. Dont you test your own updates prior to installing them on the web??

    Comment by kssnuggle — August 19, 2007 #

  368. despite the flaws, yahoo for me is better now than it has been in a longgg time

    log in instant(how it used to be) i enter my local room…. theres no junk bots…. ppls i know are there ….. thats all i want from chat

    Comment by Yahoon — August 19, 2007 #

  369. wow Yahoon..wanna tell us all how you manage to actually get into your local room?

    Comment by Pj — August 19, 2007 #

  370. Yahoon your so full of crap lmfao your the only one out of billions who dont see the bots god @ least tell realistic lies :l

    Comment by tammy — August 19, 2007 #

  371. For real, Yahoon must be using a different Yahoo or something. The Yahoo that i’ve been seeing picks the room for you & then there’s only bots there if you are able to get into any room at all without getting a communication problems error message. In my opinion thats a worthless chat, no offense intended Yahoo.

    Comment by Tony — August 19, 2007 #

  372. i said my local room didnt i … i didnt mention any other room did i.,.,., so pull ya head in my local room up till 6months ago never got bots anyway .,.,., so once again the bots are gone (from my local room ) so ease up on the liar part sweetheart.,.,.,., what you doing after yahoo.,.,., wanna go catch a movie?

    Comment by Yahoon — August 19, 2007 #

  373. Once again another day that chat is down. I just hope that the changes that Yahoo is making to the chat is worth this long drawed out wait. We all would like to see the chat rooms improve, but if there was a choice of the old chat and no chat i think we all would take the old chat.
    The one thing i think we all would like to see is a post from the great people at Yahoo giving us a hint on just how much longer we are going to have to wait, or an idea of what the changes are. We all sit and wait…………..

    Comment by Rhonda — August 19, 2007 #

  374. You’re exactly right Rhonda. Thats all they need to do is tell us whats going on with Yahoo then we can take it or leave it. I do expect there will be some kind of news tomorrow. I have a feeling though that all the changes has a lot to do with the lawsuit against Yahoo a while back when they had to close user rooms.Yahoo could be coming to a slow end.

    Comment by Tony — August 19, 2007 #

  375. Well now, just to give you folks an idea of what’s going on at Yahoo Inc. and Yahoo Chat!. I’ve sent off dozens of emails to Yahoo Help, just like many of you have already, I didn’t offer any “I can fix it” ideas, I didn’t call them names or accuse them or their parents of mating practices with animals, and I didn’t whine and cry. Just asked a simple question “why isn’t it working yet, and how long will it be before it does work again”, here is their answer officially (edit my email address from the message),,,, At this time we would like to reassure you that we are doing everything
    in our power to resolve the issue as quickly as possible. Although we
    can not offer you an estimate as to when this problem will be fixed,
    please be assured that we are aware that the problem exists and our
    engineers are investigating this further. Unfortunately, we cannot offer
    any further information regarding this issue.

    If you have any other questions or concerns while we further investigate
    this issue please let us know as we’re always more than happy to help!

    http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/messenger/

    We appreciate your reporting this to us — your input helps us to
    identify ways to constantly maintain and improve our service. We are
    always striving to keep Yahoo! Messenger as the best Instant Messenger
    on the planet to make free voice calls, webcam video, file transfers,
    photo sharing and much, much more!

    Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Messenger.

    Regards,

    Arleen

    Yahoo! Messenger Customer Care

    Comment by Billishere — August 19, 2007 #

  376. WTF is up with chat? how long does it take to “fix” the supposed problems? the initial post from Sarah was on 8/9/07…it’s been 10 days, and it’s worse than ever…when i want to go to room 69, i want to go to room 69, not 3, or 22, or 47…
    i left yahoo over a year ago, and recently came back. it just struck me why i left in the first place…there are 10x as many problems as solutions. get with it, yahoo techies!

    Comment by irate user — August 19, 2007 #

  377. ok, i just read the msg from billishere, about the email from arleen @ customer care. all i want to do is LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH…
    “We are
    always striving to keep Yahoo! Messenger as the best Instant Messenger
    on the planet”
    HAHAHAHAHAHA
    if what we’re seeing is the best instant messenger on the planet, i would hate to see the worst one!

    Comment by irate user — August 19, 2007 #

  378. Will yahoo chat ever be back???? now it’s just bots and we are loosing our freinds. I would like an answer if you can pls. Paul

    Comment by Paul Ward — August 19, 2007 #

  379. ok so far, nothing …..i got nothing, cant use the chats at all
    all my local chat rooms are unuseable,……however, in yaho help chat i heard voice chatters but was unable to communicate with them using text, they could not see me and did not respond, as i dont use voice chat it was useless to me but what i got was some kind of protocol problems……i came into the conversation as it was pretty much over. anyway it doesnt matter because i cant use the chat part of yahoo messenger. I just sit there in a room and no one sees my text.

    Comment by netta — August 19, 2007 #

  380. Hi, I’m not sure if you know but if you join a room.. the server connects you now to a random room in that catagory. This is devastating to chat… if you can’t join the room you intended on, what’s the point in even trying? It seems like you have two different teams that aren’t coordinating on your updates… First you have this delay on room join to slow down bots and now in response to the delay, you are sending people randomly to other rooms…. If you want to get rid of the ad bots, prevent web messenger protocol from joining the rooms in the first place. All the ad bots are exploiting that protocol and you will eliminate 99% of them with that fix without limiting real Yahoo! chat users at all.

    Comment by Acyn — August 19, 2007 #

  381. Well its now well beyond a joke.pick a room any room you like and end up somewhere else and sit with a load of porn bots on your own.For the few of us that had regular rooms where we would meet our buddies and have a laugh its all gone to hell in a handbasket.Has yahoo employed the muppets as programmers.Yeah i know its new servers and teething problems but it doesnt stop the fact that people are now leaving chat in droves.Come on you yahoo geeks put your playstations away and sort it out

    Comment by what a crock — August 19, 2007 #

  382. ITS a crock thats for sure WE CANT even go to the chat rooms we want to NE MORE there MANY MANY groups in all kinda of different chat rooms PEOPLE like me that like to go to the same room ON A regular basis and MEET and talk to the same PEOPLE AND NOW I cant even go were I want…..

    Whats the POINT OF LISTING chat rooms when we cant even go to the one we want…. ??

    DOES NE ONE CARE???? YOU MUST KNOW that people chat in these rooms?? I mean this must be a joke hopefully this IS FIXED soon or your going to loose alot of people using yahoo!

    Comment by Erica — August 19, 2007 #

  383. Yahoo is really screwed up! In the romance by location rooms Wyoming and Wisconsin are not even listed. And I don’t appreciate trying to get into a political chat room I usually go to and getting bounced all over Yahoo on the Yahell Express! and the Bots! man are they bad….seems every room you get bounced to there are at least 45 bots in them. That works out just for the political lobby rooms 4500 bots! I have given up on Yahoo even fixing chat…seems the techs at Yahoo either must be playing games or surfing the porn sites. It shouldn’t take them this long to fix chat unless it has such a low priority that Yahoo just doesn’t give a damn when it gets fixed! And we would appreciate more timely updates on the progress instead of some message about updates that is almost 3 weeks old.

    Comment by John — August 20, 2007 #

  384. well for one thing i hope they keep the fight rooms closed to many kids be in there,and i wish yahoo could do what paltalk has done a basic service and a paid service ,yahoo can make lots of money,i think Sarah Bacon need to get paltalk and see how there chat is better than yahoo,

    Comment by markj — August 20, 2007 #

  385. Hi All,

    Finally I got the answer why YM chatroom not work , so I cant enter the chat room because connection to the server cant be made .Thanks I still have people on my list that I can chat with.

    when it will return boss.?????????????

    Comment by YOHN-O — August 20, 2007 #

  386. bah… who needs chat when we have this happy community of whiners and complainers forming right here on this blog!

    Comment by pooge — August 20, 2007 #

  387. pooge is right………asl pooge? do you have a cam? yep feels like home :-)

    Comment by Joe — August 20, 2007 #

  388. Well another day of yahell still the same still not working. Can Sarah Bacon at least give us a few answers to our questions its not alot to ask for really to keep us unhappy campers up to date on the situation. None of us im sure want to be moaning away like this or maybe some do who knows. If yahoo doesnt fix it i guess this will be my regualr room from now on lol

    Comment by what a crock — August 20, 2007 #

  389. Agrees with Crock…c’mon Sarah..I know its embarrassing and I truly feel your pain at having to come here and explain all the wonderful things that are happening in the Yahoo! world right now..but..as embarrassing as it is.. we do deserve an update… roflmao..even if it is another pile of ………

    Comment by Pj — August 20, 2007 #

  390. haha well ive finished with yahoo now u can’t even get in the room u want if u manage it u can’t see type so im off to paltalk wat a joke fixing it its got worse

    Comment by tp — August 20, 2007 #

  391. wel sarah seems full of it she tells little they say they are working on it and no more bots what yahoo did was keep all the damn bots and got rid of people . how long does it take to fix no one addresses that shes pacifying people by her little updates damn get a 15 year old in there im sure they would have had yahoo fixed and running . yahoo tell the truth you want bots and not people in your chat rooms you are showing us all that every room has at least 45 bots in them and yahoo takes you to a room they want with all bots .maybe these bots are yahoo employees moonlighting for a buck since yahoo doesnt pay them well …

    Comment by atiredchatter — August 20, 2007 #

  392. Although some of these posts here are humerous, I think we should all give Yahoo time to implement the planned changes. These are massive undertakings to an existing operation, and it would be ludicrous to think they could be done without creating chaos among users. Perhaps if the rooms were shut down completely now, as I feel they will have to be before the improvements can work, there would be less anger over futile attempts. I personally feel its best to not have Sarah make promises of a date for “all to be well” if it has to be pulled out of the air and isnt accurate. Chill out and perhaps visit a friend or neighbor that we might have lost touch with. I feel that Yahoo chat will return.

    Comment by asylum — August 20, 2007 #

  393. this is a simple answer to alot of the problems i see people complaining about. my friends and i have started private confrences with each other. we enable the voice chat feature, and invite our friends, those people in turn invite others of a like mind and society. we dont have bots, spammers, or people trying to be so-called keyboard commandos. everyone has or can get voice, we do not lag in typing and once again , let me stress this point… u chooose who u allow in the room. its a private voice chat. there are no ad banners on this either…enlage it and u will feel at home in there as u would a chatroom monitored by yahoo. just a thought , but instead of berating the beleagured workers at yahoo, why dont we try to make the best of it? at least now we can most of all sign in, and this way we can still chat and talk. in facr, dont tell yahoo they will change it but i think this is better!

    Comment by sarah jane — August 20, 2007 #

  394. I am still thoroughly, disgusted, revolted,ashamed for the Porn Bots,who have ruined Disabled Chat. Iposted here yesterday,made my feelings known.Once again the truly disabled have been wrapped in newspaper like old fish innards and tossed to the curb, however there are a lot of us,and spending power.I may be disabled but not Stupid. Some one shall take up the jawbone of an ass,and smite the purveyors of smut, pornography and discord. Hopefully we will once again have our disabled rooms,our friends,and the discord and pornography shall return to the slime pit from which it came. I speak soley for myself,and no one else or group.Thank You.catangel49ca

    Comment by catangel49ca — August 20, 2007 #

  395. ok I havent posted lately thinkin things were gettin better. I wanna know if yahoos only way of opening the rooms is by puttin bots in them …geesh!!

    C’mon yahoo people you all should be smarter than that to use the bots.

    Real people cant even get into them maybe this is a bot chat client now and forget the real people (rolling eyes here).

    Comment by Julianna — August 20, 2007 #

  396. Ok so now that the lag is fixed it is impossible to get into the room I want to. Is this permanent?

    Comment by Dave — August 20, 2007 #

  397. Ok, I do understand the need for change, and the need to attempt to correct things that are causing trouble… But, now , we cannot enter the room of our CHOICE… have to bounce in and out of several rooms to attempt to get into the one where we all gather. Only to find, more cam bots than ever were here before… I still say, you should get it right, and then come back. This is just frustrating to everyone.

    Comment by Valerie — August 20, 2007 #

  398. When i found this blog a week or so ago I thought this is great. Yahoo set it up so they could inform people about what is going on. WRONG!!!!
    I see now that Yahoo’s public relations department is living up (or should i say down) to the standards already set by there engineering and IT departments.

    A simple 2 or 3 lines of text to inform people about what is going on every few days is apparently asking too much of them.

    GOOD LUCK YAHOO … From my point of view it does not look like your going to there by skill or brains so your going to need all of the luck you can get.

    YES … I know that no one at yahoo is going to read any of this. I may as well go outside and cuss at a fence post or a tree, I will get the same response. If i did that at least I would be getting a little sunshine and fresh air.

    Comment by Old_Man — August 20, 2007 #

  399. I guess the intent is to run off all the chatters, since you make no money off the chatters.
    You dont have any advertising but your own personals service.
    And all the rooms have bots in them, even the most lame topic is nothing but bots. So until you get this straightened out, can someone suggest a better chat site. Because this is not working.

    Comment by E D P — August 20, 2007 #

  400. Are we having FUN Yet?

    As with everyone else, it is 1:45 in the afternoon Central Time here in my world, and Yahoo Chat looks just like it did Friday, only MORE Bots and fewer real people.

    It must consume an astounding amount of space for Yahoo to trap and record the IP address of each and every BOT that is roaming the rooms!

    Anyway – - Figured I would post here since I can’t chat in the chat room… I’ve become curious just how long it will take to get things working in chat.

    Anyone want to start a Pool to bet on Zero Day!

    -Professor Wizard

    Comment by Professor Wizard — August 20, 2007 #

  401. Well I spent all day saturday testing third party chat clients, various shield programs all for yahoo, all worked about the same as yahoo messenger did (did anyone notice the lack of caps in the word yahoo), I tested other chat services, msn chat,is closing down october 14th, AOL chat is going the same way not long after, the regulars in PalTalk now refer to those from yahoo chat as refugees and treat them as such, skype is having issues meeting demands, and many others turned out to be chat services for monkey spankers and nub rubbers. In the end I guess all I can say is this, “we are getting exactly what we are paying for”,,,,,”NOTHING”,,,after reading all the blog messages here, the best bet for getting together with your chat buddies is the use of the “Conference Room” feature, at the moment that still works, to the rest of you folks, you have my sympathy with your frustration(s), it is a shame that yahoo inc can’t get it right, in truth, in my opinion, it hasn’t been right since the 5.0 build of messenger anyway, but make sure you understand that’s my opinion, we all have our favorites

    Comment by Billishere — August 20, 2007 #

  402. Yahoo, you should be ASHAMED of your performance.

    disgusted:99::9876543210

    Comment by developer — August 20, 2007 #

  403. The term Bone-Head programming comes to mind. If yahoo had any concern for users that chat they would have setup a test server and left the existing service running.

    Comment by JET — August 20, 2007 #

  404. Ok, does anyone mind if during the crappiness of the yahoo rooms, that I turn this blog into the 30’s rooms… ty… huggggggggggggggggggs all the room regulars..you know who you are…long time no see, we just gotta sort out who and how we’re gonna play music…lmaooooooooo…lol

    Comment by Pj — August 20, 2007 #

  405. Hey EDP, some people are using pal talk but I don’t like it very well myself. Best hope is for oohya chat at oohya.org to get up and running which I heard probably won’t be for another 6 weeks or so.

    Comment by iabullrider — August 20, 2007 #

  406. i sit, i wait, nails all chewed off, cigarettes all but smoked, coffees gone cold, to scared to move from me seat to get another cup, what if a chat room should appear? OMG, i cant miss that event…..kids are hungry, husbands complaining no sex for weeks…..he said something about a lawyer a couple days ago, but i too busy to remember, my yahoo isnt working.
    MY YAHOO ISNT WORKING!!!!
    give me back my yahoo, i cant sleep, cant eat, my ass is getting flat from sittin here in this xhair 24/7…I want my yahoo…
    What has the world come too? its bad enough we have to pay taxes, and die………dont take away our yahoo.
    Now some of you may say im really attached to chat, passionate about it, nah not me, i can give it up anytime i want…..lol…..sure i can, but i dont want too.
    So sarah, please give me back my chat, let my kids eat again, let my husband have his sex again, let me leave my chair long enough to run to the bathroom, am i asking too much? I dont think so………..
    I WANT MY YAHOO CHAT BACK…….
    thank you and have a nice day

    Comment by dazed — August 20, 2007 #

  407. roflmaooooooooooo…omg dazed…your post is the besttttttt thing that’s happened since yahoo decided to update and its dismal failures… … you made my day… only cos Im not as bad as you..at least I don’t pee where Im sitting…roflmaoooooooo… more power to you and I hope you write some more….gonna look forward to this blog now..hehehehehehe

    Comment by Pj — August 20, 2007 #

  408. Hmmm the way I see it… Yahoo must be earning revenue FROM the bots… Or they would have been removed , EN MASSE, long ago!

    ANOTHER valid comment was made earlier. As soon as an ugrade or security fix is made legions of hackers take perverse pleasure in defeating it.

    When you have entire websites decicated to yahoo hacks lol… what do you expect?

    I would imagine that when yahoo decided to only allow chatters over 18, they created a backlash of new TEEENY-Hackers who’s sole purpose in life is now to hack yahoo. Cause they were denied access, they figure well then NOONE ELSE WILL HAVE IT EITHER ! MUAHAHAHAHA

    If Yahoo is serious about promoting free chat. They need to Sick thier coprporate attorneys on the hackers, booters, etc.

    Funny how people change theit attitides when it costs them time and liberty…..

    Just my two cents…

    Comment by AnonyMOOSE — August 20, 2007 #

  409. Keep smiling Dazed>:D The world can live without Yahoo

    Comment by Tony — August 20, 2007 #

  410. Yahoo chat is indeed broken, possibly irreparably. It’s only for the people I have met here that I keep hanging on, hoping for a miracle. Maybe the technology to keep a satisfactory service that can overcome all the hackers, etc does not exist, but some other free chat services are much closer than Yahoo was and is.
    Perhaps Yahoo is doomed by its own popularity, but if what I have seen in the past few weeks is any indication of how Yahoo engineers fix things, then don’t be surprised by a mass exodus of Yahoo users.

    Comment by Joe M — August 20, 2007 #

  411. Well, as pointed out by Billishere, Yahoo! is evidentally already aware of this matter. However, for the sake of venting my extreme fustration and in hopes that they actually tell us something useful here, I’ll continue with my comment…
    I honestly want to know what the HELL your staff has done on the 13th during their maintaince of the rooms that could have possibly caused such an appaulling degeneration in the stablility of the chat rooms? Or perhaps another chick in Yahoo!’s security was found and exploited by bots and hackers? I know this is a free service, and I am truly grateful for it, I really am. And I appreciate the efforts that Yahoo! has gone through to provide it, but this latest mess is absolutely atrocious. Were it not for the fact that there are not really any other decent chat services out there, I get a feeling that may of us would have left by now. And yes, I know we’ve all been complaining about the bots and instability of Yahoo! chat rooms before, but this is by far the worst condition I’ve ever seen the service in. So please Yahoo!, give us some idea of what’s going on, and not just some cut-paste/rehearsed response like I’m sure you’re putting in your e-mails to people, but a genuine response. I don’t expect a miricle, just some hope that progress will be made and that it’ll happen soon. Thank you Yahoo!.

    Comment by Janus — August 20, 2007 #

  412. Dazed, you have my sympathy….

    Comment by Billishere — August 20, 2007 #

  413. passes dazed an inflate-a-ring, pack of smokes, thermos of coffee and a set of glue on nails to chew on, keep the vigil for us please.

    Comment by Billishere — August 20, 2007 #

  414. Yahoo! might be better off just having the ability to login via proxy just in messenger and not in chat to take care of the bot problem, or maybe bring back the ycht protocol without proxy as well just for chat. Just two ideas I wanted to share with an easy solution, minimal cost and disruption. I am sure you are doing your best with the limited resources that may be available. All the naysayers can apply for the jobs listed in a previous blog entry and join the Yahoo! Messenger Team. I work in the I.T. field and I can assure you its far from easy on such a large scale to do what Yahoo! is trying to do. Good luck to you Sarah and all involved in these updates.

    Comment by Sloar — August 20, 2007 #

  415. Im still here, still waitin, not one room has appeared, at this point, i’d love to be in a room with bots…..
    Thanks for the donations ppl, i wont give up, staying put until i see my chat room before me.
    I think one of the kids ran away, counted 4, when i moved my eyes from the monitor for a second mind you, saw only 3, oh well hubbys home, he can find whoever ran off.
    Hubby was talking a few mintes ago, not sure if he said he was calling a nurse for me, or if he said he was calling a callgirl that dresses like a nurse to service his needs. hey as long as he leaves me alone with my computer, go for it….
    he did bring home depends, not sure if their for me or the callgirl nurse.
    WHERES MY YAHOO?????
    Lets see what day is it, not rightly sure, all i can recall is sitting in chat one moment, then the next…..poof …….MY CHAT ROOM WAS GONE, im in limbo ppl, cyberspace,
    Please Sarah, send my yahoo back to me, make me whole again, dont send me out into the cold cruel world, i dont wanna go, NO, i refuse to go……..
    And here i sit……….

    Comment by dazed — August 20, 2007 #

  416. Well, it’s been days and days and YAHELL is still a flippin mess and all I can say is it’s apparent that THE IDIOTS HAVE TAKEN OVER THE ASYLUM in YAHELL’S offices since they still haven’t figured out how to fix the “ISSUES” for YAHELL MESSY.

    For all those who are crossing over to PALTALK you will soon see that PALTALK is no picnic. You will find there that alot of the room moderators are control freaks and you will soon find out that a ROOM MODERATOR in PALTALK will have their field day in controlling you on what to say or how to say it. So as much as I am disgusted with the ongoing “FIX IT PROBLEM” with YAHELL, I’d rather keep my frustration levels up on high alert with YAHELL than deal with PALTALK anyday.

    SARAH BACON … It would be nice if you posted another post it note and let us in on the YAHELL ISSUES!!

    Comment by LaLa — August 20, 2007 #

  417. Did someone mention EXCITE CHAT? …good ol’ days? umm, I DO! in fact i remember it ended with a huge bang of users battling with hacked OCX files… and no CroKaShiT was not the one responsible! ok, anyway, i hope yahoo doesnt go out like TTL did.

    Comment by CroK — August 20, 2007 #

  418. just so no one misinterprets what i said above, excite chat ended because of money probs not the hacked ocx files. but there was a huge user battle utilizing those files to get admin status with the same power over chat. yahooligans dont know it, but they are doing the same thing. its not uncommon for people to get a new computer and dream of being known as an elite hacker with his/her fame covering the globe. yahooligans have figured out that is almost impossible for them, so they settled on being chat room nuiscances. isn’t it ironic that the very thing which gives them so much joy destroys that which they enjoy the most. the deal with free chat providers is that they earn their income from ads. when people cause such havoc avoiding those ads they produce a cost to the chat provider by having to devote so many man hours toward maintaining a peaceful co-existance. when that cost exceeds the income it is no longer profitable to continue the free service.

    Comment by CroK — August 20, 2007 #

  419. What is going on with the Oklahoma Rooms, the chat has been completely disconnected, one chooses a room and winds up in another room. Bots have totally flooded the system this has only occured in the last few days, YAHOO HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by sa39guy — August 20, 2007 #

  420. Truth be told I don’t think Yahoo! should have left the java-based client or whatever the old client for chat-rooms was. Things seemed to be working better then, and user rooms… I know Yahoo! said they’d never be brought back, but everything was much better with them in the service. Like the old saying goes, “If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it.”

    Comment by Janus — August 20, 2007 #

  421. LOL.. sa39guy.. Where u been? It’s everywhere w/YAHELL.. FOR EVERYONE!! You are not alone!

    Comment by LaLa — August 20, 2007 #

  422. How interesting that Sarah apparently wiped the 150+ comments under the most recent pos (sudoku, anyone?), chronicling the sorry state of chat right now.

    Maybe if they ignore the problem, it will go away…

    ….or maybe their users will.

    Comment by Ryan B — August 20, 2007 #

  423. So what has it been? almost two weeks now and still Yahell is not running yet? What kind of yokels do they have working at Yahoo? I really liked the maintenance they did on Yahoo on Aug 13th….made it worse than I have ever seen it. You now get bounced from room to room and every room you get bounced to seems there are 10,000 bots in there. The way Yahell is now you can’t go to the room you want but wherever the Yahell Express takes you. And why can’t Sarah and Jeff keep us updated what is going on instead of leaving us in the dark? I don’t think they are even reading these posts in here. We don’t even get a comment from them, even about our posts bashing Yahell. Seems like we may never get Yahoo Chat back. Just tells you how low on the totem pole Yahoo Chat is.

    Comment by John — August 20, 2007 #

  424. Why is it Yahoo allows these bots, don’t try to tell me there’s nothing you can do. In the old days I lost more than 1 name to a chat ban for having more than 5 names in chat from one IP. You bring back that practice and we’ll see a 95% drop in the number of bots immediately(warn me first)

    Comment by pops — August 20, 2007 #

  425. well think yahoo might as well close this page now think they got the message

    Comment by danmark2002 — August 20, 2007 #

  426. just a suggestion to all of you……..
    What we are doing is NOT perfect………….
    But what we hve done is find the highest numbered room in your chat category, if you used to be in Jerry’s diner:3 try Jerry’s diner :40, go on up from there, when you get to a room wit 10 or 12 bots you probablywon’t be able to go any higher, put the room in your status and waiit for your friends. tomorrow night start even higher

    Comment by pops — August 20, 2007 #

  427. Thanks to all of you that have been complaining about Yahoo…it is now worse off than it has ever been!!

    Comment by Candy — August 20, 2007 #

  428. this simplified chat version is great!

    Comment by sceptic — August 20, 2007 #

  429. Sonia >:D

    Comment by pops — August 20, 2007 #

  430. anyone figured out voice here so we can play some music?? don’t make me sing

    Comment by pops — August 20, 2007 #

  431. how was everyone’s weekend?

    Comment by sceptic — August 20, 2007 #

  432. yeah… easy to get in, unlimited scrollback, and NO BOTS (yet)

    Comment by disco-legend-zeke — August 20, 2007 #

  433. don’ be so sure disco Check out my profile http://profiles.yahoo.com/iamapornbot

    Comment by pops — August 20, 2007 #

  434. LOL nice idea Pops , it worked 2 days ago but now the bots have multipied so much now ALL 100 of the Seattle rooms are totally full ! Sadly I’ve been using Paltalk …. or worse , using the lull to catch up on my sleep .

    P.S. Loved that profiles ROTF

    Comment by Mortech — August 20, 2007 #

  435. well its still called patience…

    BUT!!!

    It shure does wear on them when we dont get any more updates …Gee! Tks Sarah for the one (rollin eyes here).

    Comment by Julianna — August 20, 2007 #

  436. Now for most all this is a free service and great that one company such as yahoo is the last pilgrim standing per say.. msn chat is dead… aol has always charged.. and their aim chat is no longer either…

    Yes I am very disgruntled at the way the chat service is now with all the rooms absolutely flooded with bots which is why the regular users cannot get into them.. unless a bot leaves the room…

    But I do pay for my service since my high speed modem etc. is with yahoo services… and I’m a die hard loyal yahoo fan and supporter…

    So did someone hack into the chat servers and flood the entire network with botts?

    And at last though I had to search and find that yahoo posted that it was going to be working on chat so a simple update on the main web page would be great!!

    Maybe replace a thing about some seal sneezing in the antarctic and post about how your fixing the problem..

    But thanks to someone who at least has listened… wow that amazed me in that regard alone….

    Comment by pete — August 20, 2007 #

  437. you know that seal actually farted…. yahoo didnt tell that did they >:)

    Comment by Yahoon — August 20, 2007 #

  438. I just wonder if yahoo is letting things get so bad that they will be able just to close the the whole thing down.

    Comment by pierfisher01 — August 20, 2007 #

  439. Is this new chat we are having made in China by any chance

    Comment by just_wondering — August 20, 2007 #

  440. My patience are running thin. Wonder if all of Yahoo has gone on vacation.

    Comment by Tony — August 20, 2007 #

  441. Good question Pete. Yahoo, did someone hack into the chat servers ? I have a feeling something really bad is going on with Yahoo.

    Comment by Tony — August 20, 2007 #

  442. I’m a patient person, but this is just ridiculous.I’ve given up on yahoo and l’m now using paltalk like a few other disappointed yahoo users. Wonder how many more users yahoo will lose after all this $h!t.

    Too little to late I say.

    Comment by beyond being patient — August 20, 2007 #

  443. Uhm.. wasn’t it better just useing the old Yahoo messenger instead of makeing newer versions like now . Seems like the newer it gets the worse it becomes.

    Comment by Carlos — August 20, 2007 #

  444. I’ve been a faithful user of Yahoo Messenger and Yahoo Chat since 2000 and I have to say big improvements have been made to Messenger but chat has been left behind to rot and go to the dogs, booters and porn bot invasion. I love Yahoo and DON’T want to move to another IM/Chat client but really it is getting really really boring to face the Chat problems over and over every day. Now I can’t even get to my favorite room because now Chat redirects me to wich ever room it wants and that’s not what I want. I want to be able to get into MY favorite room quickly and without problems. I know that fixing this issues take time but it has been like this for many many months and frankly I’m getting tired of it. Please pretty please fix this soon and give us back Yahoo Chat the way most of us liked it free from those annoying spam bots and with the liberty to choose wich room we want to log into. Don’s make me do like sooooooo many friends of mine has already done and migrate to Paltalk. I want to keep on believing that Yahoo Chat is the best out there don’t make me choose otherwise. Thanks in advance.

    Jose

    Comment by Jose — August 20, 2007 #

  445. Jose, I’m a fireman. Have you seen hose b? Just playing. I miss yahoo also!

    Comment by jshaq — August 20, 2007 #

  446. Yahoo has been so POOR…….everyone complaing of all the bots hundreds of them filling up the rooms…..its ridicolous……this is the worst server.
    updating it is not helping…….they need serious techs working on this to resolve this sitituation immediately. we have handicap people who go into chat to keep in touch w/family & friends an only have this to keep in touch…. when will things ever be back to normal. all everyone is complaining about is not being able to see or read chat an bouncing from one room out to another……..its unreal. for a free service i see what everyone is Getting Nothing !

    Comment by Rosebud — August 20, 2007 #

  447. billishere…msn chat shut down for good october of 2006.

    Comment by Joe — August 20, 2007 #

  448. he is thinking of his own interests he makes MONEY off yahoos issues what a hypocrite hes the most arrogant a55 on here DONT BUY YTK PRO its usless

    Comment by bugs — August 20, 2007 #

  449. Chat is dead when is the funeral service

    Comment by pissed off chat user — August 21, 2007 #

  450. If you build it they will come ” fields of dreams”
    If you don’t fix it we will leave and fast.Many have gone to Paltalk and we do have other choices.
    I liked Yahoo when it was working. I dont care about excuses. The users want results. Yahoo must have talented educated employees who have
    some idea how to fix the chat mess Yahoos been experiencing over the last few months. The longer it takes, the more users will get used to not having Yahoo chat around. And thats not good for any business.

    Comment by Gforce628 — August 21, 2007 #

  451. sooooooooooo…have we been fired yet?

    Comment by Pj — August 21, 2007 #

  452. “Yahoo must have talented educated employees who have
    some idea how to fix the chat mess”

    ROTFLMAO

    That is the FUNNIEST thing I have read in years, made it worth getting up at 5 am to search out a higher rooom number our group can share their morning coffee in

    Comment by pops — August 21, 2007 #

  453. There is one thing worse than the state of the chatrooms…its your total disregard and contempt for its users… and I tell you what that tells me… what if it were anything other than a free chat service? What if I used and paid for some of your others services? Would you treat me in the same contemptable manner?

    Comment by Pj — August 21, 2007 #

  454. yes PJ, they would, and do. Many of the people frustrated with chat atm are also YBC Yahoo customers. They have all the same problems we do. In the end it comes down to there is naot another service out there to compare to Yahoo so we won’t give up. Not while there’s a chance to return to visiting with the many freinds we’ve made here

    Comment by pops — August 21, 2007 #

  455. Comments are being deleted …… LMAO!

    Please Fix the issue and STOP deleting the comments

    Comment by Luccha™ — August 21, 2007 #

  456. Qoute ::

    Is this new chat we are having made in China by any chance

    lmao!!!!!

    Comment by Luccha™ — August 21, 2007 #

  457. Well I know my emails are getting dropped but I don’t pay for that either. It would scare me to death to actually pay Yahoo! for anything if this was the response I’d get when things went wrong.

    Comment by Pj — August 21, 2007 #

  458. cos you’re not allowed to punch them…lol

    Comment by Pj — August 21, 2007 #

  459. One more thing…I would like to congratulate the Messenger team on something. Chat has remained in the same state for almost a week now. I have never seen that before….NICE JOB!!!!!!

    Comment by Kip — August 21, 2007 #

  460. yeah at least yahoo is consistant you got to give them points for that

    Comment by fido — August 21, 2007 #

  461. Kip, if that is a real number, you are a stinking low-life.

    Comment by Jack Hammer — August 21, 2007 #

  462. Right now when I try to go into a specific room, even though I chose the one I wish to use, yahoo throws me into a different room. What is the point of a room list if it ignores your choice of rooms. I have been going into specific rooms for many years and have friends in them so I want to continue visiting my friends not start all over again in a new room.

    Also I have found all of the messenger vers. 8 series don’t work properly they either won’t let me log in or it won’t let me into chat, so I as well as many of my friends have reverted back to 7 because it’s more stable. When will you fix 8 so it actually works?

    A lot of my friends have become so frustrated with the issues in the chat rooms they won’t go into them any longer, they chat through their 360’s until the rooms are fixed. If you want people to use the chat rooms you need to fix them and as well as your messenger so they actually work.

    Comment by Lyn — August 21, 2007 #

  463. I know I can be bad but to post someone’s telephone number here is shooting below the belt… I hope that wasn’t her right number… yes we all have issues with Yahoo! but…as employees..not as private individuals… keep it real huh?

    Comment by Pj — August 21, 2007 #

  464. Seems to me all these folks whining about not Yahoo’s problems and not even one comment thanking Yahoo and their business model which has given us years of free chatting.

    I hope they get their problems sorted out and would like to thank them for the many years that I, and millions of others, have enjoyed their FREE services. In the meantime, I suggest either take a chat vacation until things get back to normal or find some other way to amuse themselves, likely for free, also.

    As for kip, posting real-world info about a Yahoo employee who is likely working overtime to deal with the situtation so this creep can harrass folks online, for FREE, I hope Yahoo pulls your account. Too many assholes like you make chat a much worse experience than their current downtime problem.

    Comment by terra_citizen — August 21, 2007 #

  465. Kip , posting her number here , if thats her real number , was not right . When I took a problem to them 2 years ago , about 100 bots made by a person in chat , with my personal info on them , along with a faxed police report consisting of my complaint , phone records where I was being harassed , along with the phone company having had to change my number , as per requested by yahoo , nothing was done . Except my account being shut down and my 360 because I blasted yahoo for not doing anything …. I am sure if thats Sarah’s real name , she is well protected from anything a yahoo moron that uses that tactic can try . And if she didn’t protect herself from such , then she might just wake up and see that yahoo has yet another real problem and try and fix that along with the many other things here …. Anyway thats my 2 cents for the morning .

    Kip , shame on ya , and terra , you must be new to yahoo ?? and its issues ? ” thanking ” yahoo for what its done ?? As for free services , I pay for my yahoo thru my phone services I think , SBC Yahoo ?? isn’t that yahoo ?? I could be wrong but my bill states each month that that9.95 is for SBC Yahoo . And if its ” free ” then I guess I get for what I pay hey ??? Nothing ! However if its not fixed soon I will be finding another method of chat , even tho I hate Pal Talk , at least they will let you go to a room of your choice or make one you can enjoy … and I am sure that billion or so in revenue made in the first part of 2007 by Yahoo just won’t be the same next year … that old saying , what goes around comes around applies to huge fortune 500 companies as well folks

    Comment by yummy — August 21, 2007 #

  466. OK…
    I know it has been said 100 times before but I will say it again. IT IS NOT FREE! I look at and presumably click on ads. That is how Yahoo ! makes money. Same way Google, and several other high and low profile companies make money on the internet. Well, not Google, they are into everything now including paid subscription services, damn they are being run by some smart people. Good thing Yahoo! didn’t buy them when they had the chance or we would still be asking Jeeves!

    Just because I do not send a check to Yahoo! directly does not mean it is free. I will be more likely to buy a product that I see an ad for then one I don’t. Even though I will pay more for the same product. Now I understand this is a concept many of you will not be able to comprehend but jump out of your GED study guide if only for a moment and give it a try.

    And as for you last statement, I had to get a glass of water, I was laughing so hard I actually choked, I hate when that happens. “overtime” Did you mean to type that. They have been given offers of FREE (could not resist) assistance to make this work. They have tried for no less than 3 months to “fix” it. Something tells me “overtime” is not the problem, or maybe it is and since it is a free service there is no money to pay the overtime, so we have to wait 1.5 times as long. Chat would have been fixed yesterday if it was a paid service but now we have to wait for another month and a half.

    As far as poster that number, hell, it was probably some lady who doesn’t even own a computer and is wondering what in the hell is going on. Besides, like I said it took me less then 2 min to find it using Google and Anywho.

    Comment by Kip — August 21, 2007 #

  467. OK…that GED study guide thing was pretty damn funny…

    Comment by Kip — August 21, 2007 #

  468. I think you’ll find that Kip’s complaint is Sarah’s not working overtime, in fact she doesn’t appear to be working at all. Despite her promise to keep us updated we’ve seen nothing further from her. While I don’t agree Kip should have put her number up maybe he could have shown some balls and called her himself and reported back???

    Comment by pops — August 21, 2007 #

  469. The last advertisement I remember seeing in the banner ad’s was Pizza rolls , How about we run down to Wal Mart and get some , and have a pizza roll party , I am sure it would help ” dazed ” , we’ve not heard from her in a bit , hope she is ok … someone shake her or something , call for her kids or hubby ….

    If this is the end of Yahoo , I want to say thank you for the many years of faithfully be a source of companionship for me to have the format to meet new people , even tho some of those days were bad , weak , horribly unjust , when it came to booters and cloned ID”s , I also met some great people here , I even met one of the members of Three Dog Night ( hard to believe but true ) … I met some filthy players here , and I met some really awesome people from around the world , even lost some going home to God for a time … All the negative I could put or anyone else could put wouldn’t be as great as the good Yahoo has done for me and some of my friends …. God Bless you all over there , and hopefully you’ll get this issue resolved and until you do my message to those unhappy campers …. ” cowboy up , go get some pizza rolls , and lets all get ” dazed ” thru this !!!

    Comment by shine — August 21, 2007 #

  470. I did call it several times….never got an answer

    Comment by Kip — August 21, 2007 #

  471. Its worse now,the sex bots are offering free beer and pork rinds to any live chatter

    Comment by just_wondering — August 21, 2007 #

  472. Yahoo won’t let me in any chat rooms ..Also it was fun to follower user by typing in their yahoo Id, also can’t get any profiles as I use to by typing in an Id..Yahoo has changed so much !!!!!!!!!!!!For the worst .

    Comment by Lonesome — August 21, 2007 #

  473. I ran into someone claiming to be from Yahoo in one of the Yahoo help chat rooms. According to them in 3 days, the server updates should be completed. Keep in mind that is fully unofficial until a Yahoo Employee posts it here themselves. This person also said they are well aware of what is posted here. I can live for 3 days and see what heppens then. Hopefully some of the “constructive criticism” placed here will help shape their development of future implementations.

    Comment by Julie — August 21, 2007 #

  474. ve never seen the chat rooms so bad as they are now….EVER. Is Yahoo trying to fix it or should we look else where for chat? Its been a while and ive seen no comment from them.

    Comment by dont wanna say — August 21, 2007 #

  475. Well it was great while it lasted, even with all the bots it was the best FREE service out there. Yes it’s free, and the ads had dried up as the result of TV stories about user created rooms, that were really bad. So advertisers left, the only ads were very generic Yahoo Personals, and Broadway shows, only Liberal advertisers would touch the chat rooms. Especially with Dateline doing numerous shows catching chatters online with young children. Not the best ad for Yahoo . Even the home page of Yahoo didn’t list Chat as a service today, is that a sign of things to come ? Apparently the bots are still there though, they have flooded the rooms and now choose more than ever to IM you, at least when they posted in the room that was not so aggravating but now they even know the ony way to get to you is to IM you, That’s the real pain as Yahoo may be loosing the Instant Messaging users as well. Well I will miss it, and have to find another fun chat sourse, RIP, it was great while it lasted, Thanks…

    Comment by EDP — August 21, 2007 #

  476. I liked yahoo before. Sure there were problems, but nothing is perfect. You could get into a room that you clicked on… not click 23 and go to 91 with bots bots and more BOTS. You guys should be working in over drive right now. This was posted the 9th and its now the 21st, with more problems. Updates are supposed to make things better, your supposed to know what your doing, not take a stab here and there and see how it works and find out that you just screwed up the whole system and have no idea how your going to fix it.

    Comment by Shannon — August 21, 2007 #

  477. Well..all I can say is Yahoo you had better make alot of good changes and imporovements. I have been on Yahoo for 4 years now and never, ever have I seen it like this. It is just craziness,,I mean the bots were annoying especially the man made ones that boot you from the rooms,,but I could deal with those…these bots Yahoo has put in the rooms…ufffffffffffffffff…just horrible! It was funny at first to get bounced from one room to the next but now it is just plain maddening. I and many friends have downloaded Paltalk and MIRC and these 2 chat clients work soooooooo well…expecially Paltalk…we love itttttttttt !! I dunno Yahoo…better beware,, you have competition and they are really great! Yahoo…you really have dissapointed many of your die hard customers..Sad

    Comment by Adara — August 21, 2007 #

  478. yeh KIP post ya number … ill send round some pizzas for you too enjoy and pay for…. or how bout a truck load of cow poo

    Comment by Yahoon — August 21, 2007 #

  479. …are you the tooth fairy?

    Comment by ann — August 21, 2007 #

  480. Like I said, Kip you are a low-life (and probably a stupid little boy too!). As for the rest of you whiners, yahoo is better off without you. No company needs raving idiots for customers. Most of you are probably trailer trash, who could not afford yahoo services anyway.

    Comment by Jack Hammer — August 21, 2007 #

  481. hey jack hammer.,.,.,., get a rat up ya

    i just found this somewhere.,.,.,

    ——————————————————————————–
    Yahoo is far from dead.. They are playing with there own bots right now, When the beta for this version of yahoo was tested, it was tested internally, it worked but they didn’t include bots. This is a 3 or 4 part system, they have part one working.. To stop the knock command you will be bounced to a room of the servers choice if yours is full, the lower end rooms are full, because once the bot joined the room, it cant leave, just as you are haveing a hard time leaving and joining a room in the same name Once the bots are gone, you should be able to jump around like you want to… The second part will destroy all bots, They are implimenting a log in script that will pop a box with a coded box, something like what you filled out when you joined yahoo, or even this site uses it, it gives you a code, your repeat the code into the box, a verification system. Thirdly and this my kill yahelite for a while not sure, a periodic box will pop up with another verification box for you to fill in.

    The way to move around right now, if you are in yahoo help 5 and you want to try to go to yahoo help 1, but your stuck in 5, join a different catagory, say china 1 then come back into yahoo help 1. The servers are running on restricted or limited access to provide security for the new servers until the bugs are worked out. The whole backend for chat rooms has been rewritten with all new codeing. Expect things to be screwed up for a while, hopefully wednesday or sometime next week.. If it goes on to long, they will prob scrap the new code and go back to the old code.. I cant give you my sources, but it comes from the horses mouth behind a keyboard at yahoo..

    dunno its its true or not but it was a good read

    Comment by Yahoon — August 21, 2007 #

  482. asl everyone? hahahaha!

    Comment by Bigsuso — August 21, 2007 #

  483. I like to know why or when will the fight rooms be back up and running. Some of us Yahooers love the fight rooms. The only thing was the bots and booters and there was to many porn bots in there also. BRING BACK THE FIGHT ROOMS.

    Comment by Kari G — August 21, 2007 #

  484. u:x…sad girl:x….i wonder if kk got a pedicure yet? damn i miss chat:(

    Comment by Bigsuso — August 21, 2007 #

  485. yeah i agree with kari….i dont have anyone to fight with anymore. kari are u up for it???? or are u gonna cry like a lil girl

    Comment by Bigsuso — August 21, 2007 #

  486. Yahoon,
    Could your source not give you any more clear an idea of timeline than that? Although your information sounds credible the lack of a tighter timeline means that it’s not much better than the standard form letter reply I received via email and the same reply I received in voice via the phone from four different help desks.
    Please understand I am not claiming any doubt of what you say, nor do I desire to know your source or get it directly for myself, however it’s been six days now without a single word from anyone at Yahoo Inc. conerning this issue.
    Bill

    Comment by Billishere — August 21, 2007 #

  487. ok now that yahoo is up and runnin again, I wonder how long it will take them to get the dang bots out of the rooms so us real people can get in and get back to our reg. chat life ???

    It took them months to make this update happen I just hope it doesnt take them that long to get the bots out

    Has anyone heard anything bout this ?

    Comment by Julianna — August 21, 2007 #

  488. I don’t know whats going on but, the rooms are going crazy.
    I try to go to one room and it sends me to another room and it will not let me switch categories rooms..

    When is this going to be fixed?????

    Comment by bound — August 21, 2007 #

  489. i just want you ppl know that i am sure i am not only 1 here very frustrated with your lack of motivation or is it talent i have been having anxiety attacks since this been going on not sure if i am falling into a depression state but soon i will prob go to doc n get some anti depressants sleepless nites waking up hoping chat is fixef i have become addicted to chat its become a way of my life as welkl as many others who feel same way as chat is like a drug that my system no longer has now plz help atleast give me some idea wat is going on should i file majot lawsuit 4 what you ppl have done offering this to me free 4 all these years n just taking it ryt away there are lotsa ppl from outside willing to pitch in to help if you cannot fix it nobodys knows whats going on plz be more specific with us bcos soon i may realy need something 4 meds n win or lose i will file and hold you ppl responsible its not money issue here its veery emotional on my end plz reply you got my e mail here ty 4 few minutes to update if u will spare it

    Comment by f4m0us_y4h00_1nm4t3 — August 21, 2007 #

  490. A good soulution to the problems is also just start a conference with people you know on here. Yahell will let you do that. I’ve been in one the last few nights. It’s a quick fix for now until they wake up.

    Comment by dhrflfo — August 21, 2007 #

  491. and yahoo isn’t fixed. It still shows 5000 people in every topic and 50 people in every room

    Comment by dhrflfo — August 21, 2007 #

  492. A reliable Yahoo insider told me that Yahoo Chat servers were breached, this is part of the reasons why they are having so much difficulties trying to fix things, although Sarah and Co are too embarresed to go public with this, they should just put their pride aside and admit they got pwned.

    Comment by Fly on the wall — August 21, 2007 #

  493. PS. To all those chat addicts complaining, how about you spend the free time you’ve got now that chat isnt working, looking for a job, eh?!

    Greetz

    Comment by Fly on the wall — August 21, 2007 #

  494. eat me “fly on the wall”..i have a job and ive been too productive since chat went down. my boss will expect me to work during work hours now…wtf? this needs to be fixed ASAP or i will go on a yahooo shanking spree. fix this pronot!

    Comment by Bigsuso — August 21, 2007 #

  495. Hi all… YES this is being read. They have removed my last post from a couple of days ago where I tols Sarah she may as well P**S OFF cos she isnt managing, and barely has a product any more. Guess I got up someone’s nose.

    Comment by Ian — August 21, 2007 #

  496. *** thats not nice Ian.,.,.,., but maybe she did piss off cos i aint seen her since the 9th

    btw she musta locked the door coz i cant enter chat now :>

    Comment by Yahoon — August 21, 2007 #

  497. Well, this blog is like any …..mostly ok people..some real nerds and one or two complete supercilious, over-bearing, pompous, legends in their own lunch-hours, ill-mannered, uneducated arseholes… yep…chat is alive and well and living in this blog…

    Comment by Pj — August 21, 2007 #

  498. chatters log,#3
    Still sittin, Still waitin, GET A JOB SOMEONE SAID!, i have a job, its called being a mom, and the only enjoyment i have is MY YAHOO CHAT.
    Dont give advise to others, when your right here on the same damn page as us, trying to find out whats going on………
    I WANT MY YAHOO BACK!!!
    Everyone say it, lets it here ppl, its time to take a stand, and show em WERE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANY LONGER.
    by the way, i need cigarettes again, and coffee, please send what you can. Im all alone now, hubby took the kids and left, but thats ok, my monitor keeps me company, together we will overcome this disaster, and we will rejoice in yahoo once again………
    GO TEAM..GO YAHOO…….IM NOT MEAN, ………JUST GIVE ME BACK MY YAHOO….
    y”all have a nice day now, ya here>:D

    Comment by dazed — August 21, 2007 #

  499. yahoo servers got breached what a surprise considering there system has more holes than swiss cheese i’m surprised it took so long for that to happen

    Comment by pissed off chat user — August 21, 2007 #

  500. The least they could do is post some sort of update to let everyone know that something is or will be done about it. Even if they’re lying…tell us something. I’m not a chat addict, but I like to go into chat every once and a while so I can hook up with bots! Wooooooo!!

    Comment by Eric — August 21, 2007 #

  501. Hey everyone,
    Here’s an idea, since yahoo isn’t paying attention to us here, nor even trying to keep us up to date with whatever is going on, how about we get some national news coverage in on it? Afterall if they can do a story on the biggest pickle or oldest hairless cat alive, we should fit right in there somewhere I would think? here is the link to send in a new tip to NBC/MSNBC NEWS, be intelligent about please, it will have more impact on their email server maybe,,,, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18616878/

    Comment by Billishere — August 21, 2007 #

  502. ok i love chat and all…but national news coverage is going a tad bit overboard. i just miss rose the fat hog:(

    Comment by Bigsuso — August 21, 2007 #

  503. I think the bots have been in control long enough. fix the damn servers!

    Comment by saintroach — August 21, 2007 #

  504. hey rita.,.,.., whats news hun .,.,.,. lets blow this scene and get it on theres no chat rooms nice enough for a sweet woman such as ya self .,.,.,, but when there is ill let you know

    Comment by Yahoon — August 21, 2007 #

  505. Hi Rita,chat dont work ,wanna get married

    Comment by just_wondering — August 21, 2007 #

  506. please do not open the fight rooms back up to many kids be hanging in the fight rooms

    Comment by markj — August 21, 2007 #

  507. This is Yahoo President Jay Russell, I am sorry to announce that Yahoo has reached its maximum number of accounts two million. If you would like to keep your account for free send this to everyone on your list. This way we can know which accounts are being used and which accounts we can delete. Send this within 8 days and your account will remain free. Once again I am sincerely sorry that I have to do this. Please start sending. Jay Russell, Yahoo Management Renee: WHOEVER DOESN’T SEND THIS MESSAGE YOUR ACCOUNT WILL BE DEACTIVATED AND IT WILL COST $10.00 A MONTH TO USE IT! TO SEND 2 EVERYONE ON YOUR LIST, RIGHT CLICK ON YOUR GROUP DO NOT DELETE.

    ok is this a bunch of crap or what ????

    Comment by Julianna — August 21, 2007 #

  508. lol… should any of this be a surprise to anyone? Yahoo has had it’s network publishing ads like googles in beta test stage for over 2 years…. their site builder tool does not work on vista which left many of their webhosting clients hung out to dry (like me) so left to find another web host… now this..lol… There is a reason google is king and yahoo is on it’s way to becoming the next AOL

    Comment by steve — August 21, 2007 #

  509. oh hell ya, give em back the fight rooms or they’ll be in bothering me

    Comment by pops — August 21, 2007 #

  510. “ok is this a bunch of crap or what ????”

    YES anytime you recieve anything like that google HOAX YAHOO

    that message has been around for years, tell ya what if they ever really run out of names I’ll give up a couple thousand of mine

    Comment by pops — August 21, 2007 #

  511. lmao no wonder Sarah has abandoned us, she went and started another chat room and forgot to invite us http://blog.messenger.yahoo.com/blog/2007/08/21/chat-rooms-follow-up

    Comment by pops — August 21, 2007 #

  512. Welp still sittin here waitin oh so very patiently… God this sucks… SO bored after gettin off work at night I’m findin myself goin to bed early (damn that sucks) lmao… Anyways please get this fixed soon I’m missing all the wonderful peeps I’ve had the priveledge of meetin n ya I know patience is a virtue… not right now it isn’t lol anyways keeping my fingers crossed that soon this will be all fixed and everybody can go on their merry ole way >:D

    Comment by Sassy Ass — August 23, 2007 #

  513. LMAO!!! You eople just dont get it do you ? I see so many complaints about all of the porn bots and such in the rooms, and yahoo not doing anything about it, while others post about the ads on chat screens and webcams…HELLO!!!! Have you ever stopped to think that perhaps yahoo is very aware of all these bots, because perhaps they are getting payed by them? just like the other advertisers?I mean why else would it be so hard to get rid of them? Ill tell you, they arent trying.

    Comment by BRET — August 24, 2007 #

  514. Thank you thank you there is a God after all, I finally see a LOT of people who feel as I do about all the garbage and Porn Bots.It has got to Stop and it is up to us the users to stop them, by any means possible. I have every right in the world to express an opinion,you may not like it, but i have the right to say it. So why bother deleting my “mature Content Setting” 360 Blog. Yahoo has so many excessive problems,you mean my little ol’ 360 Blog ruffled your feathers.GET rid of those abominations of Porn Bots. Let the regular population have their Chat rooms back.The opinions expressed are my own and reflect no one group or organization. So YAHOO put on your Big Girl Panties, and deal with the problems. Thank You

    Comment by catangel49ca — August 25, 2007 #

  515. the trouble makers are usually the same ppl… same ip,,, ect ect…. porn bot,,, i dont care 1 way or the other,,, i can iggy them,, and as long as yahoo allows other programs like yaelite or yazak,,thats an easy fix, if porn bots keep chat free thats fine with me,,, its just buisiness.. and children are not allowed on yahoo anyway,
    i notice the was this has been handled,,many chatters are banding together and looking into alternative chat sites,,, ppl are the same on any site… the think i like about yahoo. is the fact,,its not homogenised.. and totaly g rated,, we can laugh jk and be adults,, just like ppl abandoned regular tv… and radio,.,,, they will prefer the feedom of chat without a moderator.. a moderator with perhaps a different sence of a g rating.. well huugs and i hope yahoo continues,, id hate to go to paltalk,,yuck,,lol…. ~PREE

    Comment by preemiememe — August 25, 2007 #

  516. bots can overwhelm a chat server if there are not LIVE ppl to moderate and boot them.

    yahoo has chosen to ignore them and now bots are in rooms with other bots.

    If yahoo is getting paid to allow the bots, that revenue wont last long. no one is going to pay for bots that are only seen by other bots.

    if its just yahoo being cheap…..thats just foolish. bandwidth costs money.

    either way.. I dont think ill be back.

    http://www.oohya.com

    Comment by saintroach — August 27, 2007 #

  517. http://www.oohya.org not .com

    Comment by saintroach — August 27, 2007 #

  518. Hi Yahoo !!
    Just want to say a biggggggggg THANK YOU for fixing the chat rooms…yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! APPLAUSE…LOLLLZZZZZZZZ
    Thanks alot really…great job!!

    Comment by Adara — August 28, 2007 #

  519. Well, Yahoo chat is Fixed. But I dont like it I cant go were I wanna go. I have to do all this crap to get into one room. and sit there with 6 people. wow.. funn.. yea… Id rather deal with the bots. this is pathetic. Yahoo has taken away all the freedom of chat, thats the only reason i come here is the freedom and now its gone. I dont like it. I really dont like it. and I know Sara ur saying god piss and moan piss and moan U tell me to get rid of the bots and Iv done that what eles do u want. I dont know know to tell u the truth, I want the old Yahoo chat back just with no bots.. this CAPTCHA crap is well… Crap… why should have I have to verify my exsistence just to enter a chat room.

    Comment by SeD — August 28, 2007 #

  520. Can anyone please tell me why – when I fill in the box with correct letters – and get verification – when I go into the chat room I see no-one, not even typing on the screen.. Any suggestions please?

    Comment by muttie_aust — August 30, 2007 #

  521. Chat verification is not working for me, I am alone in chat room, what is the problem.

    Comment by Lorie — September 1, 2007 #

  522. well here we are again with yahoo issues no wonder ppl go to third party some are even building flash chat as 4 yahoo i guess we lucky to conf with a few friends here is my major problem why is there no response as what is going on to we the ppl who make yahoo what it is today if we was paying would things be diff i wonder as i seen on forums of 3rd party sites they are willing to help you know as a social gathering to chat with friends from a distance you are hurting many ppl here as 4 myself i contacted my lawyer n we discussed about how you have got ppl addicted by this free sewrvice n how it is like a drug to many n to have it taken away with no resonse only creates more hunger as to whats going on its ok bcos soon i prob will file my lawsuit bcos of my emotions yes i am addicted to chat so what i got friends there now you took them away it is funny how u are controling many ppl’s lives by this silly lil way i only hope more feel same here we ask n not all in disrespectful way but you cannot even post anything what about ppl who do not know u have a blog c’mon now what is the sad excuse if u can post captha then u can post what is going on n sara i feel bad ppl blame you but your the name yahoo chose here now get some help so these posts can be answered no more foolishness lets get real plzzzzzz let ppl know what is going on b4 lawsuits pop up all over the world ty (famous)

    Comment by (famous) — September 3, 2007 #

  523. The bots are returning in full force. Most bot programmers will find a way around captcha in a month or so. Meanwhile, we will have to do the manual captcha verification just to get into a room full of bots. I prefer the system without verification.

    Comment by calidude — September 4, 2007 #

  524. Well today im so dissapointed in Yahoo…I thought you were doing a great job but actually this is worse. Today , no matter what room I click to join,,its closed or full. This is so frustrating and the rooms really arent full so why does it say they are and refuse you entry? Anyone know?
    Thanks !

    Comment by Adara — September 5, 2007 #

  525. We get rooms up and running and yahoo closes them down again.
    Why?
    Dont you want Yhaoo chat rooms anymore?

    Comment by thoroughly_fed_up — September 13, 2007 #

  526. Why is it that the verification site will not permit anyone to log into it in order to get to a room?

    Comment by appletree42633 — September 16, 2007 #

  527. The outrage printed here just shows what kind of people are in Yahooland. Try spell check for credibility, to start with. The program planners at Yahoo can never meet a schedule nor do the programmers seem to understand how they can move forward without destroying what was. What kind of people thank someone for publishing gibberish & vague “updates” ? Obviously the codes that are now being used have not taken the bots away, so that shows me that those programmers are smarter than the Yahoo programmers. The third party clients have always been ahead of Yahoo, providing services that a major corporation like Yahoo cannot. Face it Yahoo couldn’t care less about chat & chatrooms. As far as the booters are concerned, they have always been around, they seem to have better programmers than Yahoo does also. And the threat of legal action for people who make up numerous IDs, oh yea, that’s worth prosecution. We can’t put molesters, rapists or killers behind bars but we will waste money on chatters tha make multiple IDs. Ok, this was a rant, but face it people, Yahoo doesn’t have the staff to create the dream world you chose to live in & it never will. With the new Messenger I can’t get into rooms, lose voice (even in conference), can’t stay in a chatroom more than 20 minutes, lose ink, don’t get pm from friends & half the time can’t log in, these things are happening to many chatters. I couldn’t care less about the bots or the booters, all I want is to be able to log on, go to a chatroom of my choice & chat, talk or type, for as long as I want.

    Comment by Lola — September 19, 2007 #

  528. well well, we all had problems with yahoo chat ,lol. The problem I have is why yahoo is so casual about people who STEAL others Ids and post EVERYTHING all over chat!..yes, it happened to me.
    My B/F is in Iraq , we communicate using yahoo, but ummm NOOOOOOO, these people stole my ID, my Mail and used ut to their advantage, When I called yahoo all igot was * ohh, you lost your password*,NO

    Comment by Patty M — October 21, 2007 #

  529. the bots are back in full force and now we have to verify to go meet them…lol

    Comment by joe — November 27, 2007 #

  530. What is one now supposed to do when they are finally able to enter a chat room…and a booter who obviously has multiple names sends you over 40 private messages in a row?
    How does yahoo wish us to handle this?

    Comment by Bill — December 21, 2007 #

  531. when i clik at yahoo chat,yahoo say “this request was refused”.how to handle this?

    Comment by ariff — December 26, 2007 #

  532. why are the yahoo genealogy chatrooms gone?

    Comment by carla page — January 3, 2008 #

  533. Ok my question is what is the secret code for to get in chat rooms anymore. These rooms are infested with bots more than ever! Its friggin ridiculous and the code is nothing but a smoke screen to all the users. It does absolutely nothing!! So get rid of it!! Its a pain in the ass for one cause you cant jump from room to room any faster anyways. I havent seen great changes in this program since the big shutdown so what the hell is really goin on!! I’ve been a member since at least 1999 i think and will still continue because i’ve met some really good people there and enjoy chatting with them. Its the aggravation of this program that makes u wanna shoot yourself. HELP!

    Comment by LuLu — February 20, 2008 #

  534. Well, the cloners are back again. Seems Yahoo just does not have the programmers to deal with the problem. You record IP’s don’t you. Can’t you trace them?

    Comment by discusted — March 11, 2008 #

  535. Why can’t I get into chat anymore? I hit the page with the address to go to the code page but I don’t even get the code page up anymore.

    Comment by Pam — March 17, 2008 #

  536. bring back the old chat.yahoo.com site chat 2.0

    or bring back java

    Comment by Kris — March 31, 2008 #

  537. I personally know several people who enjoy booting,PM bombing and closing down rooms just because they can. When we have reported themthey change their IDs or IP address and Yahoo hasnt been able to do anything about them. Alot of my friends from Yahoo Chat have gone to Paltalk for just that reason. All most of us want is to have a fun, friendly time on here.There are jerks in every crowd no matter where you go anymore.But a little help from the powers that be to get rid of these idiots would be greatly appreciatted.

    Comment by Jon — April 5, 2008 #

  538. what happened to all the adult chat rooms?? I miss them!

    Kara

    Comment by karamorfun — February 6, 2009 #

  539. hey! yahoo. can we get smiley’s in the form of MnM’s candy face’s that would be better then one…lol need something sweet in the chat room’s..lol…that would be so cool..thank u yahoo!..hey please hurry with that thank’s..lol

    Comment by tommy aleshire — March 6, 2009 #

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